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  1. Rich

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    Here's the Amazon offering for the new Cubes: https://www.amazon.com/all-new-fire...d=1571759900&sprefix=fire+tv+c,aps,217&sr=8-5

    Amazon bills these as entertainment hubs. They do everything a 4K Fire Stick will do. The do just about everything an Echo will do. They give you the option of controlling your TV, AVR or Soundbar by voice and that includes the Amazon app. You can scroll thru the menus by voice, select programming by voice and control the volume of your TV set, AVR or Soundbar. You can switch HDMI inputs with a simple voice command. I have spent evenings watching shows without picking up a remote. They are amazing devices. We use four of them on four of our 4K sets. I haven't had the opportunity to try one of the new Cubes but I know it's a helluva lot more powerful than the first generation Cubes we have. Those four older Cubes are gonna be given away as I replace them with the newer Cubes.

    Buy one, try one. One of the most interesting new devices out there, I think.

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  2. armchair

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    Rich, if HD audio is a need, you may want to compare the 2nd Generation Cube with the 4K Stick.

    The stick will do 24 bit audio but the cube won't. Came across the odd comparison in another forum. For some reason, Amazon has a history of later generations skipping audio features. This is one of those occasions.

    Compare audio specs and be aware. Puzzling why Amazon would do this knowing HD and UHD audio was coming to Amazon music. Hmm.

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  3. Rich

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    Much as I like what the Cubes can do I don't use them for watching programming. I think the PQ on my ATVs is just a bit better and I enjoy the ATV experience. Nothing wrong with the Cubes, I just like the ATVs. When I got the first Cube all I could think about was how wonderful these things would be for handicapped people.

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  4. armchair

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    Even my Fire TV 4K Stick is quirky. Exits app minutes after launching screensaver. I rarely use it. I wanted Amazon devices to see my ring cameras. Faster and less frustration just pulling out my phone! Have to keep disabling and reenabling the skill to get it to work. It's mostly just saying something went wrong.

    I have the echo show 2nd generation and I cannot explain enough to Amazon why they need a volume slider for Alexa!! Adjust volume to hear and Alexa interaction is too loud! Tell her to turn the volume down and it's back to not hearing media. She needs a dedicated volume control. Alexa responses with a screen could be more like Siri on Apple TV (just text onscreen is very nice, even when Siri gets it wrong). I wish Amazon could get it together in a package that didn't frustrate.

    I hear the cube only has the volume slider for Alexa interaction. Buy that one they say. No thanks! It's just baffling why Amazon stubbornly cannot improve echo show to have Alexa say less when the response is in text onscreen. No verbal shortcut to smart devices and smart commands cannot be added to routines. Where's the smartness and innovation? Not like they're not getting suggestions.

    I have ATV4K. Finally setup HomeKit. Had to overcome the imposed iOS setup device necessity by borrowing my kid's iPod. I just wish HomeKit wasn't so limited and Apple TV isn't always my watched device.

    Mostly yelling at Alexa. IMO, she challenges the aged, particularly the male A type personality. Alexa I want to unplug you; response: I don't have an opinion on that. Ok, unplug it is. What ever happened to thanks for your feedback? I tell her she's wrong but she refers me to the app to do it myself. And she really needs a skill that responds to "ASK GOOGLE IF YOU DON'T KNOW"! She still thinks J.P. Morgan is alive and therefore, 182 years old. Google knows.

    A cube would may only be slightly better, IMO. Buyer beware.

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  5. Brian Hanasky

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    Yup CBS doesn't like customers. They like $.
     
  6. trufunk

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    Ahh I did not know this, I’m gonna see if available on my Samsung tv if not might have to get a Roku Ultra. thanks


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  7. dlt4

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    Thanks for the info Rich
     
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    If you use: "Alexa lower the volume one level" the sound diminishes in steps of one. Same thing with raising the volume. That might help. Helped me.

    I haven't had a chance to use the new and improved Cube. I do know the first generation Cubes have some issues. I'm hoping the new ones act more like an Echo.

    You want a really smart assistant buy a Google Home. I just had an interesting conversation with mine this morning. You can't do that with an Echo device. But there are more things you can do with an Echo device that you can with a Google Home.

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    I'm curious about that statement. CBS will not allow you to record to DVR, they want you to use the on demand copy. I have had no issues with ABC, I get the selection bar and can choose from the DVR version and the VOD version. The only Fox show I'm watching right now is 9-1-1 and it shows as the VOD version, however there are no commercials, the show starts and runs straight through.
     
  10. armchair

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    Increment the volume up and down all you like with echo but the issue is media requires a bump in audio. Alexa is too loud and media is too low.

    There's no reason a user should have to bump the volume continually. A separate Alexa volume control could do that. I've suggested this months since I got the first echo. If you have a cube, you can do that but not with the echo devices. Can't do this with my 4K Stick either.

    You can also say set volume level to desired level if that helps. Or even say you're too loud. My issue is with her being chatty, I keep her turned down low. When I actually want to hear, she's too low. I need a volume slider for Alexa responses only. Media should have its own slider rather than share one with Alexa.

    I could go on but getting off topic. Only thing really taking off with smart assistants is the consumer money spent. But I agree Google is smarter.

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  11. Brian Hanasky

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    CBS will allow you to record to DVR. If you watch before a certain amount of time passes you can watch the DVR version. So for instance if I record a football game at 1pm on CPS and try to watch it at 4pm I'm fine. If I record Blue Bloods at 10pm and watch it at 1am I'm fine. If i record Blue Bloods at 10pm and try to watch it at 8pm the next night I'm getting VOD version.
     
  12. bobcnn

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    I think it might be just primetime shows. I record CBS Sunday Morning, and The Price is Right, and they are always the version off air, and never the on demand version, even weeks later.
     
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  13. espaeth

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    Yep!

    Things like your local news or sporting events won't ever have a national VOD version, so the recording is never locked out. Once the VOD window expires (4-6 weeks after the broadcast day), you can actually watch the "commercial-skippable" recordings on CBS/CW/POP until they age out of the library after 9 months.
     
  14. b4pjoe

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    Yeah when I posted that I didn't know you could select between DVR and VOD recordings for non CBS channels.
     
  15. gio12

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    My new SONOS Beam sounder does the same thing with Alexa or Google. Can tuen TV on or off, volume, etc. No matter what, I can't get it to control the HR54 or C61K
     
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  16. trufunk

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    So got a 4K Roku and on the Fox app, I don’t see any option to select a 4K stream. Is this 4K?


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  17. espaeth

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    The NYY/HOU games that were on FS1 were in 4K, but looks like now that it’s back to FOX locals they aren’t in 4K anymore.

    Tomorrow’s Vikings/Redskins game will be 4K through the app.

    There are only a handful of 4K capable production trucks in North America right now, so the coverage is pretty sparse.
     
  18. TV_Guy

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    Check shortly before a 4K broadcast like Thursday Night Football or the Saturday NCAA football on FS1. Click on the icon. I tried clicking in the Fox Sports Aop guide during pregame for the ALCS and did not get the 4K feed when the game starred. A couple of times I've gotten a You Tube TV blackout message while trying to watch a Fox 4K broadcast using Roku. No issue with the Amazon Fire Stick 4K. Some people have suggested logging out and in to clear the blackout issue.
     
  19. mjwagner

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    The Fox Sports app is pretty quirky when it comes to 4k. As an example, none of the pregame shows (MLB or NFL) are in 4k. If you tune-in to the pregame show, when the game coverage starts it will not switch to 4k. You need to either exit the app and start it again or tune to another channel and then back to the game to get 4k.
     
  20. phodg

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    Cancelled my DirecTV last week after 25 or so years. Switched to a combo of YouTubeTV and Sling Blue with sports (for A&E, Comedy Central, NFL Network and Red Zone). Love it so far. And my bill has gone from $189/month to $85. I'll subscribe to HBO in a few weeks for a month or two and binge the stuff I've missed.
     

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