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  1. Oct 27, 2019 #61 of 167
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    I found Hulu much the same frustrating and confusing mess with Live TV added to no commercial on-demand option. I've also read that Hulu CEO brags about revenue potential opportunities (ads=revenue). It's likely confusing and less convenient by design. I complained plenty about these and made suggestions. Nothing come of that but one suggestion was removed to a "private forum" and I was not invited! At least that's what I was told when it was removed. I call it censoring. But now I hear recordings in progress can be found in my stuff DVR tab.

    The Hulu move option with Live TV was inconvenient too. One vacation equals 2 moves? Limit 4 per year? That was the last straw for me though the cost was discounted well beyond my trial for recording issues I kept complaining about but about to become an issue at full price. We've gone back to Hulu on-demand no ads option only as well. Much simpler; less confusing, less frustrating.

    I've told Disney and Hulu both they could be more competitive with changes. Told them everything I didn't like and what channels needed to be added. But adding Disney+ bundles isn't to get me all-in on TV. Not even close.

    We did pickup the 3 year promo for Disney+ though. But see no incentive to keep ESPN+ all year. I don't like the Disney+ bundles.

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  2. Oct 27, 2019 #62 of 167
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    PSVue multiview on a ATV 4k. Up to 4 channels on the screen at once and switching between them is almost instantaneous. If your not using Multiview you can also easily switch between multiple previously watched channels with just a few key taps. It is also almost instantaneous.
     
  3. Oct 27, 2019 #63 of 167
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  4. Oct 28, 2019 #64 of 167
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    I use that plan a lot and it drives me crazy. It's like they tried to make it difficult to use, especially with ATVs.

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  5. Oct 28, 2019 #65 of 167
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    Just got thru reading an online article about Sony putting up PS Vue for sale. Did you read that? I tried using the PIP option on my 44 last Sunday to watch the Jet and Giants at the same time. Did not enjoy the experience.

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  6. Oct 28, 2019 #66 of 167
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    Integration with the TV app helps, at least for being able to easily get to series that you're watching in the "Up Next" section.

    I definitely agree the Hulu app menu system leaves a lot to be desired.
     
  7. Oct 28, 2019 #67 of 167
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    I should clarify this. The problems I have with Hulu are caused by using it with an ATV. I can deal with the menu system, been using it since Hulu arrived. Don't like it but it is what it is. I can see where folks that are just getting into streaming would be confused and frustrated by the UI. There are worse sites.

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  8. Oct 28, 2019 #68 of 167
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    I always found most PIP implementations lacking. I have found PSVue multiview to be rather well done and easy to use on a ATV 4k. Yes I’ve read a few articles about the possible sale. Time will tell...
     
  9. Oct 28, 2019 #69 of 167
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    Sony certainly fails to do some things well. Just assumed anyone in their right mind would buy the Beta Max recorder just because it was the best thing out there at the time and now this.

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  10. Oct 28, 2019 #70 of 167
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    The fact that they never changed the name is mind boggling. Literally every time I talk to anyone about PSVue the first thing they say is...”but I don’t have a PlayStation.”
     
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  11. Oct 29, 2019 #71 of 167
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    Sony seems to be stubborn at times. Always thought the service would have taken off without being burdened by the name. Sony was stubborn about the Beta Max recorders too.

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  12. Oct 29, 2019 #72 of 167
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    Sony just announced they are shutting down PS Vue next year. Maybe they should have noticed how 100% of people were surprising when (I mean IF) they learned you could get it without a Playstation!
     
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  13. Oct 29, 2019 #73 of 167
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    People love to blame the name for it’s lack of popularity, but that was only part of it.

    People figured out that YoutubeTV was different than the Youtube app on a smart TV.

    People also figured out that DIRECTV NOW didn’t need a satellite, and ATT managed to get almost 2 million people to sign up at one point.

    Vue had other issues like the battle over locking “home” access down to the IP you joined from. They have 500-some local markets where you couldn’t DVR your local channels because they couldn’t secure the necessary contracts. They had the whole mess over the slim packages, and years of missing RSN alternate channels (that are still screwed up with FSGO today. I get FS North and FS Detroit instead of FSN+ when I sign up). There’s also the “in progress” game DVR glitch that “Start from the beginning” jumps to live 7 times out of 10.

    If you needed a channel that only Vue carried, you lived with these things. I think a lot of people weren’t confused with the name, they just moved on to other services.
     
  14. Oct 29, 2019 #74 of 167
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    Worst product name ever!...LOL
     
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  15. Oct 29, 2019 #75 of 167
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    Anecdotal for sure but literally every single conversation I have ever had about PSVue started with the other person saying some form of “but I don’t have a PlayStation”. Many of those conversations ended with them subscribing at some point after I explained to them and showed them the service. I have tried almost all the other major OTT providers over the last few years. IMO the only service that came close in terms of user experience is YTTV. I will personally be switching to YTTV once PSVue goes dark.
     
  16. Oct 29, 2019 #76 of 167
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    Youtube TV isn't the best choice either, but at least no one will immediately assume they can't use it because they "don't have a youtube".
     
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  17. Oct 29, 2019 #77 of 167
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    Yeah, they probably need a better name but the service is really pretty good. In many ways I prefer the user experience of YTTV over PSVue. Honestly if YTTV would have had the NFL Network and the RedZone Channel I would have switched as soon as they delivered their app on the FireTV platform. So yeah, I’ll be switching to YTTV once PSVue goes dark. Hopefully by the time the next NFL season starts either YTTV will have some options that include NFL Network and RedZone or maybe the NFL will have some good stand alone options.
     
  18. Oct 29, 2019 #78 of 167
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    It would be perfect if it had NFL network and Redzone.


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  19. Oct 30, 2019 #79 of 167
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    While Google obviously has the resources to keep losing money on Youtube TV forever, I wouldn't be surprised to see them throw in the towel as well. Why do they want to be in the business of delivering TV?

    Why would they want to offer a set top software platform to MVPDs AND directly compete with them, especially given that Android TV will give them access to all the same juicy data they collect from Youtube TV customers anyway?
     
  20. Oct 30, 2019 #80 of 167
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    Are you asking why they would want more widely-desired content that is crafted by design to have commercials inserted?

    I mean, even if they just break even on the content costs, they still come out way ahead because more people watch TV longer (and more regularly) than they surf Youtube clips.

    Edit: My point here is that regular Youtube ads generate enough revenue to fund the infrastructure, give money to people who upload content, and still profit handsomely. In the YoutubeTV model the subscribers cover the content costs, so that same ad revenue can be split between infrastructure spending and Alphabet profits.
     
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