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  1. NashGuy

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    Yes, like pretty much all on-demand platforms from cable TV providers, it has unskippable ads. But if you record something to cloud DVR on YTTV, you can FF through the ads. The exception to that is some shows recorded from CBS (and maybe Pop and The CW, which are owned or co-owned by CBS), where the cloud DVR recordings won't let you FF through the ads (or they're replaced with the VOD version, same difference really).
     
  2. espaeth

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    The 1080i channels get de-interlaced into a 1080p60 stream, but the 720p channels get passed through in native resolution as 720p60.
     
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  3. wmb

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    I just started a trial of Hulu + Live TV using an Apple TV. I had to go into the web site to select favorite networks for the guide. I wasn't sure how to do it on the Apple TV app. Getting to the guide is real easy... swipe up. Then scroll the guide. Watching a show from the guide requires two clicks... one to select the channel and the second to watch the shpw. It took about 10 to 15 minutes for me to become comfortable with the UI. It will be interesting to see how my wife does with it.

    I would like to try You Tube TV before deciding on a provider. I am going to drop AT&T Now, and need a replacement. I also plan to get Disney+, and have ESPN+, so bundling makes sense.

    As a side note, I have a couple of RC73 remotes D* didn't want back, and you can program the Apple TV to use them. My wife prefers the RC73 to the Apple Remote, which is good because you can only pair one Apple Remote with an Apple TV.
     
  4. Rich

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    Another clarification: I don't use Hulu for live TV. We just have the commercial free version. Have no use for a cable replacement service at the moment.

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  5. jamieh1

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    I believe you can bundle ESPN+ and Disney + for about $12
     
  6. gio12

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    I love YTV over Hulu myself. Added philo for missing channels.

    How did you use the DIRECTV remote for Apple TV?
     
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    I prefer YTTV and will go that way at the end of the month, when the AT&T service month ends.

    For the remote... set the remote to IR. The Apple TV allows you to program a IR remotes. I don’t remember the exact menu sequence, but there is a remotes menu item and an option to program. Follow the sequence programming the buttons. They went through the arrows, menu, playback controls, etc. The only thing missing is Siri.

    Here is a step-by-step from iMore...

    How to use a universal remote with Apple TV


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    I'll add one other thing... With You Tube TV, ESPN, Disney+, Hulu, Netflix, etc. apps on my smart TV, I'm starting to question the need for the Apple TV.

    I think Apple is too. I have an Apple TV 4k, which apple released on 2017. They haven't released an hardware update since. But, there have been like three iPhone updates.

    It will be interesting to see how smart TV operating systems shake out. Seems a missed opportunity for M$ and Apple.


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  9. lparsons21

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    A couple things about the apps for smart TVs.

    1. In most cases audio will be restricted to Dolby 5.1. Not an issue for some but for those with better audio equipment and think that the audio in a movie is as important as the video, it is an issue to be considered.

    2. App updates. Streaming boxes from Apple, Roku and others tend to get updates quicker. Smart TVs not so much, and not so often as new streaming services come to the fore.

    So if something I need comes along that my smart tv doesn’t have now, it probably won’t get it. And replacing the tv to have the latest and greatest of the streaming apps is much more expensive than possibly replacing a streaming box.

    For me, other than the OTA channels, the TV is just a big monitor.


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  10. compnurd

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    The ATV4K doesnt need updated... It would be a complete waste of money to update it more then it needs. It supports all HDR Formats and is very fast
     
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    I share the concern about smart TV apps, but last night, I logged into the Hulu, You Tube TV and Netflix app on my 3 year old LG TV last night. All had recent updates. I will try with my Samsung of the same age (both were bought black Friday 3 years ago...) in a few days. I looked for an AT&T Now app on the Sammy a month or two ago, and didn't find one, but it had Netflix and Hulu.

    I know both are getting OS updates.

    The LG had a Disney+ app just sitting there, waiting for me to download it. That will probably happen over Thanksgiving. But, of course, the point is, that Disney+ wasn't even considered by Disney when I bought the TV.

    Smart TV manufactures have a stake in making sure their TVS can be updated for a number of years into the future... What is the useful life of a new TV? 10 to 15 years?

    So, just like the Apple TV, a modern smart TV with recent ARM processor will a fairly long update cycle.


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  12. lparsons21

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    There is no reason that a modern smart tv could be updated regularly but historically they haven’t been very well. We’ll see going forward.



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  13. compnurd

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    They have no stake. They want you to keep buying a new one.. The Average update period right now is 3-4 years.. Most companies stop major OS updates 2 years after release
     
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    Product take back requirements in global product stewardship rules make them stakeholders.


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  15. Rich

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    I can't imagine using my TVs for streaming...again. Yes, I have tried. I would not give up my ATVs for a "smart" TV. You want "smart"? Use an ATV. Just my opinion.

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    I get updates on my ATVs frequently. Just got one the other day...or the other month.

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    Relying on a smart TV is a crapshoot since you have no way of knowing before buying how long it will be supported with updates, or the quality of those updates. But one thing is for sure, the panel will outlive the "apps" for a long time, unless you bought a lemon and the panel dies an early death.

    If the smart TV does what you need today you don't have any reason to buy a set top now, but someday you'll have to abandon its "smart" functions because it is inevitable that updates will cease and things will stop working long before the TV needs replacement. Even if everything works you don't necessary get the same quality of app - my Tivo has apps for all that stuff but for example the Amazon Prime app is limited compared to what it can do on set tops. I'm sure the situation is similar with some smart TVs.

    As far as Apple not releasing a hardware update for the Apple TV...what exactly are they going to add to it? It still has the fastest CPU in any set top you can buy, it supports 4K and multiple types of HDR, it gets updates all the time and will for years to come - heck the gen 3 Apple TV released back in 2013 is still getting OS updates, and app updates continue long after the OS updates are done. Phones get updated more frequently because that is a WAY more competitive market, and since they have a lot more technology inside them there is a lot that can be improved that don't exist on a set top like camera, battery, display, cellular radio and so forth.
     
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    I guess that depends on the definition of “need”. Mine gets updated frequently.

    And for what it’s worth, I just replaced my daughter’s Apple TV, because it is not compatible with the Apple store. I suspect when I bought it, I never thought that would be an issue. So I guess whether that will hold true with the 4K model, remains to be seen for years to come.

     
  19. Rich

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    We seem to be talking about hardware updates and software updates and mixing the two types up. I get software updates frequently and don't see the need for a hardware update...but it would be interesting to see what a new model of the ATVs would bring to the table. I'll agree with compnurd on this.

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    I suspect he’s right. I have the 4K version in one room. I guess my point was you just never know. I’m fairly certain when I bought the model my daughter has (years ago) that I’d need to upgrade.

    I upgraded hers the other day because we tried to download the Disney plus app and I couldn’t find the App Store.

    But to your point...I suspect he is right and the 4K model should last for years to come.

     
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