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  1. Rich

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    I'd be thrilled if Apple came out with a newer, better model. Not thrilled about having to buy new units if that happens. Yeah, we should be good for the foreseeable future.

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    Thanks on remote. I have a LG OLED smart TV and prefer using my Apple TV 4K over built in apps. App quality and performance is better as is picture and sound. When i bought the LG TV, told the guy at BB that I guess I did not need an Apple TV. We was right, the ATV4K is better in my experience as well.
     
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    No philo on LG TVs
     
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    No NEED for a better ATV4K yet. Maybe next year but why?
     
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    Switched to YTTV from DTV about 3 weeks ago. I didn't pay attention but I really miss the surround Sound on live programs on YTTV. Hope they get that option soon!
     
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    I should have clarified saying TV's not the ATV
     
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    Yup, a bunch of smart TV sets we have and none of the TV apps are used on any of them. All have ATVs and Cubes on them.

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    Why? No idea how they could make the ATVs better. But it's an Apple product and you never know what they are gonna come up with. If the 8K sets ever start taking off I think that will trigger a new ATV8K. Perhaps 2 or 3 years up the road?

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    We complained about that when the Amazon Prime app hit the ATVs, that was fixed. This is a Google problem, I think that will be corrected.

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    I think it might be more of a live streaming industry problem.

    ATT is the only service to offer this on live channels, and I think it’s because they’re doing their own content encoding from traditional channel sources. This is part of why they’re offering encodes at a higher bitrate than most of the other channel providers.

    Hulu gave a talk at an AWS re:Invent conference couple years back about how they’ve built their pipeline. They’re sourcing already-produced HLS streams from the networks and then handling the metadata and content distribution within their system. Based on some of the comments that YTTV engineers have made on Reddit, I believe they’re following the same architecture. I think the networks that are self-encoding are currently not producing a 5.1 audio track for network distribution.

     
  11. slice1900

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    Where would the content come from? Nobody is producing movies or TV shows in 8K, and I'm skeptical anyone will bother producing much of anything in 8K due to diminishing returns. You've already said you don't feel the improvement in PQ between upscaled 1080p and real 4K is all that much, imagine how tiny the improvement between upscaled 4K and real 8K would be.
     
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    I think the real benefit of 8K is TV's over 75" which are becoming common. a 4K picture on a OLED 100" screen will need it. I will pass and wait. 16K should be around soon and a game changer.
     
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    Why will 16K "be a game changer"? I am willing to bet any amount of money you wish that we will never see 16K content.
     
  14. wmb

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    Jumping back in on devices...

    I have Apple TVs on both if my TVs. We got them two years ago, bought one, DirecTV Now gave me the second one and the one that I got my daughter for Christmas...

    At this point, the Apple TVs will continue to be used. But, if one dies, I won't run out and get a replacement. This week, I tried using the built-in apps, and they seem fine.


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    Its a joke. We won't stop at 8K though
     
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    They are fine. But on my LG, I get more buffering and freezing issues than the ATV ones (NF, Prime and YTTV). TV is more convenient though.
     
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    The crowd I hang out with don't have +75" televisions, most have one or more 55-65" tvs; and none I know have a 75" tv. I agree that we're seeing 75" and above screens for sale, but I don't know that most homes have a space for a 75" tv, let alone an 85" tv. Yes I understand the people have home theaters and rec rooms, but that's not the majority. Can't imagine trying to convince the wife to hang an 85" tv over the fireplace...lol
     
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    Possibly - we might end up with TVs that display a higher resolution than the TV's input is capable of receiving, if some future display technology ends up being less expensive to make with smaller pixels. That's why LCD/LED TVs at 65" or larger went 4K overnight - it was more expensive to make them with bigger pixels sized for 1080p than it was with pixels sized for 4K.

    There are several competing types of "micro LED" technology, one of which is pretty much impossible to manufacture at less than 300 dpi or so. You want that resolution (actually a bit more) for stuff like phones, but it would be stupid for a TV. But if that technology became overall cheaper to build than competitive technologies (i.e. OLED, it wouldn't matter of LCD/LED TVs were cheaper) then you might see TVs made with it, though you wouldn't actually be able to 'use' all those pixels.
     
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    I don't either but want to be the first one, LOL (65" now). Well will wait until the OLED ones come down in price. The LED are affordable but....
    Yes, I have the wall space for 10 more inches and no wife to worry about anymore. She originally threw a fit at 65".
     
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    Women are against anything that comes natural for a man.
     
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