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bluesjam said:
And for those of us with Harmony remotes what do we do? :( Thanks for your efforts!
On my Harmony 680 I hold down FF for 3 seconds, release then tap FF again....skips to tick every time!
 

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bluesjam said:
Got that one working but can't get the advance to end going! It's the same method right?
Same concept, different button. Use the 30sec skip button. Hold down 3 secs, release then tap.
 

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bluesjam said:
And for those of us with Harmony remotes what do we do? :( Thanks for your efforts!
So you can't program specific codes on the Harmony via some sort of GUI? I don't know much about them. It seems like there should be some way to generate custom codes.

JP1 users should be able to take the function numbers in my last post to create codes for their devices.
 

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Remember that these are the codes that don't work exactly like the real DirecTV remote. Well, in my code hunting excursion, I found that there are another set of functions that seem to do the exact same thing as the 5 functions above. The second set is:

Play is function 58 (second set)
RRWD is function 60 (second set)
FFWD is function 61 (second set)
Repeat is function 63 (second set)
Advance is function 56 (second set)

At further inspection, however, I found that this second set of functions actually performed better than the learned set. For instance, sending function 61 for 3 seconds really did skip to the next tick, just like the DirecTV remote FFWD key. Sending function 58 for 3 seconds causes slow-motion, just like the DirecTV remote's play key.

I can't explain why learning the keys results in the first set since this set doesn't seem to work too well. The second set is definitely superior--now my Pronto works just as well as the real DirecTV remote! I can skip to next tick, previous tick, beginning, or end.
I have a Harmony 880 and is there anyway to get this second set of codes so I don't have to hold the advance button, let go, and press again in order to move to the end of a show?
 

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topprospect said:
Remember that these are the codes that don't work exactly like the real DirecTV remote. Well, in my code hunting excursion, I found that there are another set of functions that seem to do the exact same thing as the 5 functions above. The second set is:

Play is function 58 (second set)
RRWD is function 60 (second set)
FFWD is function 61 (second set)
Repeat is function 63 (second set)
Advance is function 56 (second set)

At further inspection, however, I found that this second set of functions actually performed better than the learned set. For instance, sending function 61 for 3 seconds really did skip to the next tick, just like the DirecTV remote FFWD key. Sending function 58 for 3 seconds causes slow-motion, just like the DirecTV remote's play key.

I can't explain why learning the keys results in the first set since this set doesn't seem to work too well. The second set is definitely superior--now my Pronto works just as well as the real DirecTV remote! I can skip to next tick, previous tick, beginning, or end.

I would appreciate it if someone could try to replicate my results, especially with something other than a Pronto. Let me know if it works for you.
I have a One For All Remote (Model # URC 8910B02) and reprogrammed it with the function codes above and it works as advertised. Before I reprogrammed the remote I had to press the buttons initially for 3 seconds and then press them again to get the appropriate responses. After the reprogramming I no longer need to press them the second time. Nice work coming up with the new codes.
 

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topprospect said:
The bad news:
No one-button-skip-to-tick. I tried all 254 possible IR combinations and none produced a skip-to-tick. I tried them while on normal speed and also while fast forwarding.

The good news:
There are better FFWD, RWD, repeat, advance, and play codes than the ones that the DirecTV remote emits. Numerous people have reported that if they use a universal remote to learn the codes for these five buttons, the universal remote doesn't act exactly same as the DirecTV remote. Specifically, holding down the FFWD button on the universal remote is not enough to make the HR20 skip to tick. You have to hold it down for 3 seconds, let go, and then quickly tap FFWD again. So what's up with this?

I have a Pronto, so once I learned the ProntoHex for these 5 buttons, I used IRTool to decode the hex sequence. This results in the following LEARNED codes:

Play is function 48 (learned set)
RRWD is function 51 (learned set)
FFWD is function 52 (learned set)
Repeat is function 54 (learned set)
Advance is function 55 (learned set)

Remember that these are the codes that don't work exactly like the real DirecTV remote. Well, in my code hunting excursion, I found that there are another set of functions that seem to do the exact same thing as the 5 functions above. The second set is:

Play is function 58 (second set)
RRWD is function 60 (second set)
FFWD is function 61 (second set)
Repeat is function 63 (second set)
Advance is function 56 (second set)

At further inspection, however, I found that this second set of functions actually performed better than the learned set. For instance, sending function 61 for 3 seconds really did skip to the next tick, just like the DirecTV remote FFWD key. Sending function 58 for 3 seconds causes slow-motion, just like the DirecTV remote's play key.

I can't explain why learning the keys results in the first set since this set doesn't seem to work too well. The second set is definitely superior--now my Pronto works just as well as the real DirecTV remote! I can skip to next tick, previous tick, beginning, or end.

I would appreciate it if someone could try to replicate my results, especially with something other than a Pronto. Let me know if it works for you.

If it helps anyone else, the ProntoHex for the second set is:

Play is function 58 (second set)
0000 006C 000A 000A 00E7 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 0017 002E 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 0017 0477 0073 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 0017 002E 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 0017 0477

RRWD is function 60 (second set)
0000 006C 000A 000A 00E7 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 0477 0073 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 0477

FFWD is function 61 (second set)
0000 006C 000A 000A 00E7 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 002E 0017 002E 002E 0017 0017 002E 0017 0477 0073 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 002E 0017 002E 002E 0017 0017 002E 0017 0477

Repeat is function 63 (second set)
0000 006C 000A 000A 00E7 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 002E 002E 002E 002E 0017 002E 002E 0017 0477 0073 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 002E 002E 002E 002E 0017 002E 002E 0017 0477

Advance is function 56 (second set)
0000 006C 000A 000A 00E7 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 0017 002E 0017 0477 0073 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 002E 002E 0017 0017 0017 0017 002E 0017 002E 0017 0477
Just wanted to say thanks for this. I was able to get these codes into my MX-800 by using the ProntoHex tool to create a CCF file, which I subsequently opened with the MX-800 editor and xfered the fucntions to my remote.

Interestingly, I was able to then learn these new codes into my MX-650, which is the remote I use in my bedroom. I wonder why these particular codes are "learnable" but the others aren't.

Note: I just got my 1st HR20 this past weekend, so there may be a widely-known alternative to doing this, but this was the first one i found.

Thanks.
 

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apco25 said:
I got mine to work (forward to a tick mark):

Press and hold FF for 3 seconds. Then relese and press and relese the FF button.

Some say to press FF for 3 seconds only, but that does not work for me.

To go to the end/beginning do the same procedure with the FF/Tick or RR/tick buttons.
Are you using the HR20 remote or some universal??? My Harmony 880 does not do the FF->tic thing by default. I have to use the Harmony software to "teach it" like I Had to do for the 30sec slip. But the normal NR20 remote does FF->tic with no problem at all.
 

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briancav said:
Just wanted to say thanks for this. I was able to get these codes into my MX-800 by using the ProntoHex tool to create a CCF file, which I subsequently opened with the MX-800 editor and xfered the fucntions to my remote.

Interestingly, I was able to then learn these new codes into my MX-650, which is the remote I use in my bedroom. I wonder why these particular codes are "learnable" but the others aren't.

Note: I just got my 1st HR20 this past weekend, so there may be a widely-known alternative to doing this, but this was the first one i found.

Thanks.
I've got an MX-500 home theater master remote from universal remote control. It's obviously an older remote but it does everything I need it too except the prontoHex codes that topprospect posted. I also have the IRCLONE-MX hardware and software used for programing the MX-500 with my destop. Anyone know of a method to get these prontoHex codes into my MX-500?

It might be time to replace the MX-500 with something new but my wife is now comfortable with it and that was a hard sell the first time around.

Thanks in Advance
 

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If you haven't taken the Wish List survey recently, you might want to vote for these "press/hold" alternatives to get them moved higher up the list. They offer universal remote-friendly options to the current "press/holds" of FF/RW/REPLAY/ADVANCE. /steve

Skip-to-Tick feature should use the ADVANCE or REPLAY button for skip-to-tick during FF or REW

Option to use RED/GREEN buttons or LEFT/RIGHT arrows to jump to the START/END of recording or live buffer
 

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Play is function 58 (second set)
RRWD is function 60 (second set)
FFWD is function 61 (second set)
Repeat is function 63 (second set)
Advance is function 56 (second set)

When these codes are programmed into my universal remote the buttons work exactly like the directv remote.

If the original codes are used then I have to use the hold and tap trick.

I am using an RCU810 and programmed via JP1.

-mk
 

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tiger2005 said:
I have a Harmony 880 and is there anyway to get this second set of codes so I don't have to hold the advance button, let go, and press again in order to move to the end of a show?
For anyone interested, YES there is a way, but unfortunately, it requires a go between JP1 remote. I used my URC8910, that I had laying around and loaded the 2nd set of codes, that I got from the JP1 site(basically the same as what topprospect posted). I then had my Harmony 676 LEARN the 2nd set skipforward and skipback commands from the URC8910.

This worked. My skipforward and skipback keys work exactly like the original HR-20 remote. It would be nice if we could exchange setups so I could distribute the learned keys to people who want them.
 

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DirecTV should just get rid of the hold down methods. This discussion shows how horrible they are for anyone using a universal remote.
 

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Yeah, as an MX-600 owner, I absolutely hate these hold-down commands. There is no way I will use two remotes (WAF), so I have been w/o skip to tick and advance to end since I got my HR20. Very annoying...
 

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Earl Bonovich said:
Note it isn't a 15 minute "jump" (neither was the TiVo)
Hey Earl ... my DirecTiVo (Hughes Series 2) does have the "skip-to-tick" jump feature, usually every 15 minutes. Perhaps it was your particular model?

Anyway, I do miss that on the HR-20 but it's nothing that, as previously mentioned, adding a "bookmark" (that's what the manual calls it :)) to mark your spot. I tend to do that after the commercial breaks when I'm watching a series in case I fall asleep before it finishes.

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He was saying it wasn't a 15-minute jump where it would jump 15 minutes ahead of wherever you were. It was only a skip-to-tick which advances to pre-determined moments in the program...
 

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romwarrior88 said:
He was saying it wasn't a 15-minute jump where it would jump 15 minutes ahead of wherever you were. It was only a skip-to-tick which advances to pre-determined moments in the program...
Right, and the tick marks were usually at 15 minute intervals ... (but not always) ... so if you were at :05 on the buffer, the next tick would advance you 10 minutes to the :15. My apologies to Earl ...

IIRC, however, the tick marks for a recorded show are at 15 minute intervals from its start, regardless of what time the show started.

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