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This 1TB Drive Failed On Me

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1TB drives have been out for quite a while now, and the 'next step' of capacity is about to roll out (1.5TB+). So I thought an interesting poll on FAILURES would be in order.

Please take the poll if you've had a drive failure (of any type) on the types listed. I think I got all the manufacturers listed; note that vendors that 'bundle' drives with their particular cases (raid or not) use one of the actual drives. So if you had one of these fail, please list by original drive vendor.

Note that although Maxtor is part of Seagate, I listed both separately. Also note that I'm again, talking ONLY abut the drive itself (not the enclosure), and ANY type of failure (motor, electronics, bad sectors, you name it) is definitely included.
 

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spartanstew said:
I have a Cavalry (as do many others here) and it's been fine.
I believe 'Cavalry' does not make the actual drives, only the enclosure. What actual drive is in them? That's what I was getting at in the original posting. I know lots of companies out there design enclosures and put whatever drive in them (except for those they brand, like the FAP's and the WD types, which is obvious which actual drives are inside them).

Open that unit up and take a look at what actual drive is in it, and you might be suprised. Same with Weaknees.
 

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1948GG said:
I believe 'Cavalry' does not make the actual drives, only the enclosure. What actual drive is in them?
Someone else will have to chime in for that. I have no idea what's inside it and aint gonna open it up to find out.
 

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Results from a poll like this are going to be hard to decipher, because you have no way of deriving a failure rate without knowing how many good drives are out there. You need twice as many options like "I have a Seagate that hasn't failed" and "I have a Seagate that has failed".

Currently, it looks like Seagate has the most failures, but that's not really a fair analysis if most people seeing this thread have bought Seagate drives.
 

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DarinC said:
Results from a poll like this are going to be hard to decipher, because you have no way of deriving a failure rate without knowing how many good drives are out there. You need twice as many options like "I have a Seagate that hasn't failed" and "I have a Seagate that has failed".

Currently, it looks like Seagate has the most failures, but that's not really a fair analysis if most people seeing this thread have bought Seagate drives.
Uh, yes I do know how many drives are out there, that's public knowledge from the sales figures of the manufacturers. The number of drives used for DirecTV DVR's is really immaterial, particularly as (despite the 'common' knowledge on this forum), the cycle use in computers is MUCH higher than the use in DVR's.

So, asking if folks have drives that haven't failed is a given. Obviously, though, the actual 'hard' numbers arn't going to be readily apparent, simply because not everyone will participate, and the number of people actually on this forum board are an extremely small minority of DirecTV users/subscribers.

but it should give somewhat of a picture, particularly if drives that have a good 'rep' come in poorer, or those with a bad 'rep' come in better. And then there's the 'wild card' of the enclosures. So this isn't going to be anything approaching a fully vetted poll by any means. But it should still be useful.
 

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The HR21 series of DVR's have Seagate and Western Digital drives in them (one or the other), depending on which model HD DVR.

Both seem to work fine.

I've always had great results with Seagate drives, but some of the new standalone units have issues. I got a reliable internal drive unit and its own housing, rather than one of the reported "plug and play" ones that seem to have hiccups.
 

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1948GG said:
particularly as (despite the 'common' knowledge on this forum), the cycle use in computers is MUCH higher than the use in DVR's.
What's this based on?

Actual use - DVR HD's are writing and reading 24/7. I'd wager that it's a fairly large percentage of home systems - probably over 50% - that are shut off every night.

Heat - Most people don't leave their PC's on 24/7 in locked cabinets with little/no air circulation.

Both of these things would lead me to believe that the drives will have shorter lifespans in a DVR rather than a PC.

Obviously, though, the actual 'hard' numbers arn't going to be readily apparent, simply because not everyone will participate, and the number of people actually on this forum board are an extremely small minority of DirecTV users/subscribers.
You make an excellent case for pointing out how flawed this survey is! :D

Other things to add:
1) Based off the title of your thread, you're not going to get everyone that has a working HD into the thread.
2) As far as the number of units sold, what percentage of the market do you think DBSTalk users make up? 0.1%? 0.001%?
3) People don't go seeking out threads on the internet if they don't have problems.
 
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