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I'm renewed for NFL Sunday Ticket.tv and NFL Game Pass for the 2021 season. The new login slate is also updated in the Sunday Ticket app. Replays of the Hall of Fame Game worked smoothly in the Game Pass platform, but I'll report any streaming issues I may see during the preseason here.
 

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No issues on the opening night for NFL Game Pass. Both games streamed with no issue. It would be great to view multiple games at once (as you can on the Sunday Ticket app, and the former Preseason Live product also allowed up to four games at once), but if you're wanting to watch a preseason game live, you should be good to go.

What did surprise me tonight, from a YouTube TV perspective, was that BOTH preseason games were available live. I went into the YTTV live guide settings, and activated three additional NFL Network feeds. Both the WFT-Patriots game and Steelers-Eagles game were available, live, via the NFLN channel and NFLN alternate feed. (DIRECTV also had the Steelers-Eagles game activated on 212-1, but was subject to blackout.) One of the alternate feeds on YTTV already has guide information for one of the Friday preseason games.
 

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Updating after the Week 1 preseason games on Saturday and Sunday. Friday's alternate feed (Tennessee-Atlanta) was blacked out. I reside in the Quincy-Hannibal-Keokuk DMA, which is a few hours away from Tennessee, so I'm unsure if this played a part in the blackout, as Thursday's alternate game was not blacked out.

No real issues with Saturday games. Alternate feeds were available as far as I could catch them on YTTV. The NFL Game Pass app repeatedly pushed the NFL Sunday Ticket.tv streaming product during ad breaks. Short Cuts broadcasts (compressing the game into 30-35 minutes) is a really nice way to catch back up on games you missed, or just want to watch quickly.

The biggest complaint (not mine, but from others) regarding NFL Game Pass for the 2021 season has been the removal (at least for now) of All-22 camera angles. For bloggers/writers, this was a critical way to evaluate and review plays. There's been a lot of social media outcry for this to return, but there isn't a timetable for All-22 film to return as of right now.

Week 2 of preseason begins Thursday!
 

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Week 2 is underway. Just one preseason game from last night's slate, but no streaming issues.

As a reminder for those with either the DIRECTV Sunday Ticket package, or the NFL Sunday Ticket.tv package, at least part (if not all) of the last preseason week normally streams via the Sunday Ticket app.
 

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Thanks, I've had NFLST for years, but I forgot about the the streaming app having games from the last week of preseason. It's good that there are more live preseason games on NFL network this year, but sometimes the games overlap. This week's Rams game on Saturday night starts at 10 p.m., but there is a 7:30 p.m. game ahead of it on NFL network, and the delayed telecast doesn't air until Thursday.
I would suspect this will happen on the Saturday evening of Week 3 preseason. In the traditional 4-game preseason, all Week 4 games would be hosted on Thursday. But in the new 3-game format, games are still spaced apart from Thursday-Sunday, albeit all Sunday games are live on some sort of national broadcast.
 

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Getting ready to wrap up Week 2 of the three-week preseason today. YouTube TV has pretty much got the alternate feeds locked down to specific markets (this wasn't the case in Week 1.)

The only real criticism I have of the NFL Game Pass product is this -- during the preseason, the big push is to be able to watch any live, out-of-market preseason game. And you can do that, AS LONG as it's not the showcase game being broadcast at the moment on NFL Network. In both weeks 1 and 2, the NFL Network has either 1) left the last few minutes of a game to get to the start of their next scheduled game, or 2) bounced around other games during the start of a next broadcast game and not stayed with the opening series, where most starters are likely to play. The downfall to this is that the streams for the Game Pass stream are mirroring the NFL Network broadcast, and not staying with the respective game in its entirety.

Mind you, I get we're discussing preseason football, when we're in the fourth quarters of preseason games, where starters and star players are obviously not playing, etc. But for a lot of people that are purchasing the Game Pass product, being able to enjoy preseason games in full, live, is a big part of the draw.
 

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Another drawback of these preseason telecasts is that they are loaded with in-game interviews. The announcers stop calling the play-by-play and they go to a split-screen view where it's hard to follow what's happening in the game. Its like watching a baseball game on ESPN or Fox - i.e., it's almost unwatchable.
I get that. It doesn't bother me all that much. It's preseason; some people aren't that concerned about the fourth stringers who likely won't be on the roster in the next 48 hours, so toss in an interview with a coach or star player and catch up on some things. Preseason football is such a niche watch, I don't fault local markets trying to enhance their broadcast.
 

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B. Shoe, are you getting the streaming-only version of Sunday Ticket or do you also have DirecTV?
Streaming-only package. This will be my third year with the streaming-only package. I was with DIRECTV for five years in my former residence. When I moved to a new town just about two years ago, fiber internet was available and I moved to all-streaming for everything.
 

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Thanks, I figured you were a cord-cutter. I stream a lot of stuff, but I really hope the NFLST package doesn't become streaming-only when the DirecTV contract expires after next season. Streaming is fine for watching a game, but it would certainly limit how I watch the games and how many games I could watch. With DVR capabilities I often watch two or three games in the same slot and skip through the commercials to save time. And if the games overlap I don't have to miss the end of one game or the beginning of another. Sometimes I even stream a game on my tablet while I'm watching one or more games on the DVR. It wouldn't be the same without the DVR.
In my humble opinion (and I understand mileage varies for each person and their viewing habits), the NFL Sunday Ticket streaming package is superior to how you can view games, in comparison to the satellite offerings.

I, myself, am a longtime Steelers fan. If the Steelers are on during the early window, that's the game I watch and nothing else. If they're on a primetime/late window slot and I can browse around in early afternoon, the Sunday Ticket streaming app allows you to pick and choose up to four games to display at the same time in a full-screen quad box setting. (In comparison to the 4-game mix, where you can't pick games, and there's the border around the screens.) I use this to either enjoy other AFC North opponents games, or I can utilize one of the screens with Red Zone Channel. It's also easy to swap games in and out if one becomes a complete blowout.

In regards to DVR capability, I don't need one. Short Cuts (losing this from the satellite package was unfortunate, IMO) are available for each game from Monday-Wednesday, and I can consume a whole game in 30 minutes with no commercials. I usually catch up on the games I didn't get to watch much through this. (This leads to a deeper rabbit hole that cord-cutters don't really need DVR capability, because of on-demand, but that's a whole other thread.)

From my vantage point, the only downside to streaming-only vs. DIRECTV satellite is not being able to quickly bounce back to a local affiliate game on CBS or FOX if I'm on a Sunday Ticket channel. However, I've come accustomed to quickly bouncing between apps, so it's not the burden that some make it out to be.
 

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Another drawback of the streaming package, at least with NFLST TV package, is that you are limited to one login. I imagine that's to prevent password sharing, but it also prevents me from using multiple devices at the same time in my own house. Is that also the case for the streaming-only package?
Correct. The biggest hope for NFL Sunday Ticket, if it does move to a streaming-only offering, would be that you could at least get two simultaneous logins. That's where the satellite product takes an edge; you could have one game on the satellite and one game on a tablet/smaller connected TV at the same time, if a split-screen/quad-box format isn't for you.

I will take this approach, usually during a late window, if the local affiliate broadcast on YTTV is appealing enough to put on the TV (We're a one-TV home.) If it's not a priority watch, I can get plenty of look-ins in the late window through Red Zone Channel.
 

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Looks like only the Sunday games are available on the NFLST streaming app. All of the Saturday games are showing "blacked out", and all Sunday games are available to stream except the local telecasts. Fortunately the 9 PM [email protected] game has a 1 AM replay on NFL Network.
Sorry I'm late to the party on this reply. I experienced the same thing. The app finally went past the "Every Game, Live, Every Sunday" slate into the actual app for testing. But as you said, Saturday games were blacked out, and Sunday games were streamed for testing. I didn't get to watch any Saturday games, but I had a phone notification from the Sunday Ticket app stating that Sunday games would be streamed for testing.
 

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Week one of Sunday Ticket streaming worked with no issues to report. Games switched smoothly from stream to stream, and multi-game view had no issues. I'm re-watching a game on Short Cuts to help fill my lunch break and will catch up on others on Tuesday and Wednesday night.

I really, really enjoy this version of the Sunday Ticket product and hope more people are able to have access to purchase it in the future (which, it sounds like is heading that direction.) If and when it gets to that point, maybe we'll get some additional options like home/away radio broadcasts paired with the video, skycam-only streams (ESPN+ does this for big college football broadcasts) and catching up on a game through big plays (this is currently a YouTube TV feature.) But I'm sure there are a lot of hurdles to fulfill that wish list.

Unless anyone just cares to chat about Sunday Ticket further, I think my goal with this thread is accomplished for the season. A moderator can feel free to close this thread.
 

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I received this same email blast, and I am a streaming-only subscriber. During the NFL season, I'll receive various emails from the NFL in these sender names/email addresses:
  • NFLSUNDAYTICKET.TV - [email protected]-mail.com - This usually comes once a week on Fridays with the full schedule of games. Also used for my order confirmation emails.
  • NFL on behalf of DIRECTV - [email protected] - These are the NFLSundayTicket.tv promo emails. I've received the same ones the article writer received, even as being a current subscriber.
  • NFL Daily - [email protected] - Every morning Monday-Friday with top NFL headlines.
  • National Football League - [email protected] - A Thursday Night Football promo email, usually comes most Thursday afternoons.
  • NFL on behalf of Yahoo Sports - [email protected] - This has only come once (September 29) during the week 4 games that you could stream for free on the NFL and Yahoo apps.
When I was knee deep in NFL Game Pass during the preseason broadcasts, ads for NFL Sunday Ticket.TV ran in heavy rotation. I cannot recall if the disclaimer ran in small print during any of those spots (they were only 15 second bumpers), but this was strictly promotion for the streaming product. It also had the updated DIRECTV logo, so it wasn't an old spot simply lingering around the system.

Maybe there's a reason those addresses the article writer tried were able to get through the system? A new subdivision where the addresses aren't yet recognized? I'm just throwing darts here. At one point in the past, I was able to receive DIRECTV DNS channels for ABC by simply adjusting my service address number by one house down the road. (Our DMA didn't carry the affiliate in HD, my antenna reception was poor and I was eager to have the HD feed.)
 

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I've retitled and revived this thread for monitoring of the 2022 NFL+ and NFL Sunday Ticket streaming products through the preseason broadcasts and first couple of weeks of the NFL regular season. I'm locked in for both NFL Sunday Ticket and NFL+ Premium streaming services for 2022 and eager for the season to begin.

For background context, we're a streaming-only household on a 200MB fiber connection from a local ISP company. Hardware and currently subscribed TV/audio services are in my signature. This will be our fourth season subscribed solely to the NFL Sunday Ticket streaming service (have actively used the streaming app for the past five seasons, dating back to my DIRECTV days), and third with NFL+ (previously Game Pass.) We are a heavy NFL-viewing home during the regular season, and I'm a self-proclaimed NFL preseason nerd.

If you are an existing NFL Game Pass subscriber from 2021, NFL+ is currently active for you under your 2021 Game Pass subscription. Current content available includes the full replays and condensed replays (as available) from games dating back to 2009, along with some NFL Network programs (Hard Knocks, NFL 360, NFL Films content, etc.) Items like All-22 film and live home/away team audio should be available as the season begins.

For NFL Sunday Ticket streaming subs, the 2022 slate on the app has been updated and access into the platform will likely become available during Week 3 of the NFL Preseason (when streaming testing traditionally takes place.)
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In the preseason, do you get a choice of which team's telecast you can watch?
Unfortunately, there hasn’t been a choice in previous seasons. That dates back to even the NFL Preseason Live days. As a Steelers fan who has become accustomed to watching the visiting broadcast in most preseason games, it’s a feature I’d love to see at some point.
 

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Thanks, I've always just watched the preseason replays on NFL network, but I'm considering the yearly subscription to NFL+ for this season. As a Rams fan, it would be nice to get the LA telecast with Andrew Siciliano and the rest of that crew. Any idea what determines which telecast they use?

Another question pertaining to the live preseason telecasts - what DVR controls are available? Can you start at the beginning while the game is in progress, and is there a 30-second skip? And is there a 30-second skip on the regular-season replays?
I’m going to try and answer everything with I’m fairly certain has been the norm:

I think the standard protocol is to use the home team’s broadcast crew for live preseason broadcasts. I have seen the other side of the broadcast used on later replays.

I do not recall a means to start at the beginning if a game is in progress. Full game replays are available 10 minutes after the broadcast concludes. The condensed 30-minute replays are available 2-4 hours afterwards.

I cannot answer the 30-second skips. I just don’t utilize DVR stuff as much as a lot of other people on this board. If I miss it, I’ll just watch a replay later on with the condensed replay, so it’s not as much of a priority. It’s got normal pause/rewind capabilities, but I’m not sure about a 30-second specific jump.
 
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Are the preseason games archived or do you have to watch them live?
Preseason games are archived for replay.

Users from last season might need to re-install the NFL app on your connected TV devices. Mine currently pushes to Game Pass, whereas the NFL+ function has been updated on my iPhone and iPad apps. I'm sure that's just a fix with an update, but something to keep an eye on as we're approaching the Hall of Fame Game.
 

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The NFL app has now been updated on Roku to show NFL+. I see last night's preseason game is available with both a full-game and condensed-game replay for subscribers. How long do the replays remain available for the preseason games?
Sorry for the delayed reply, I haven't been on the forums all weekend. The preseason replays should remain up there all season and beyond. You can still pull up preseason games from 2019 and 2021. They shouldn't disappear anytime soon.
 

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what is nflsundayticket.tv? I tried this today and got an error code. I was looking into doretcv streaming for new house so I dont have to wait for the dish however I was told Sunday Ticket is only available on the dish subscription not the streaming. Since I need HOA approval and may take time to install dish my thought was to just pay for one receiver even though it wont be hooked up and use the directv app to cast to appletv or fire sticks for other TV in my house casting from iPads. I looked for DIrectv app on appletv and only one in app store is the streaming version.
NFL Sunday Ticket.tv is the standalone streaming product for NFL Sunday Ticket. It's still owned/operated by DIRECTV, but it's not part of any satellite subscription service. If you tried to subscribe through it, you likely got the error that you don't qualify for that product since your address is listed as eligible for regular DIRECTV service.

I won't pretend to know if you can get a receiver and package access through DIRECTV, without a prior satellite setup and activation. @MysteryMan is very knowledgeable about a lot of DIRECTV services, maybe he can help answer if that is even a possibility. What I would tell you, if that WAS successful, is that you'd still utilize the NFL Sunday Ticket standalone app (available on Apple TV boxes and Fire Sticks) to access Sunday Ticket games, via your DIRECTV account credentials. You wouldn't need a means to cast via a phone/tablet to your television.
 

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Little to report from the Week 1, Night 1 of the NFL preseason. Both games streamed without issue within the NFL+ section of the app, and switching between home/away radio broadcasts, and back to the televised broadcast, was an easy one.

Maybe this will change throughout the preseason, but were no commercials during the Ravens-Titans broadcast (Live on NFL+, not NFL Network.) Last season included national spots and a constant flood of NFL Sunday Ticket.tv promos for the non-national broadcasts.

Like last season, those with YTTV should notice that alternate NFL Network channel feeds are available, but the games outside of the main national broadcast are blacked out. Five games on the slate for Friday, settle in for a fun weekend of preseason football!
 
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