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Week 2 is underway. Just one preseason game from last night's slate, but no streaming issues.

As a reminder for those with either the DIRECTV Sunday Ticket package, or the NFL Sunday Ticket.tv package, at least part (if not all) of the last preseason week normally streams via the Sunday Ticket app.
Thanks, I've had NFLST for years, but I forgot about the the streaming app having games from the last week of preseason. It's good that there are more live preseason games on NFL network this year, but sometimes the games overlap. This week's Rams game on Saturday night starts at 10 p.m., but there is a 7:30 p.m. game ahead of it on NFL network, and the delayed telecast doesn't air until Thursday.
 

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Another drawback of these preseason telecasts is that they are loaded with in-game interviews. The announcers stop calling the play-by-play and they go to a split-screen view where it's hard to follow what's happening in the game. Its like watching a baseball game on ESPN or Fox - i.e., it's almost unwatchable.
 

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Unless you have a bet on the game who cares? (do people actually bet on pre-season games? THAT'S gambling addiction!!). I don't watch too much pre-season, it's boring to me, and at least for Giants games, they are local broadcasts focused on the Giants so I want to learn a little about the new players or how some injured players are coming along. So those interviews are fine. I agree, I do find in game interviews for games that matter annoying. I've seen ESPN do this for their NFL games too. I remember a Giants-Cowboys game a few years back where they spend the whole 2nd or 3rd QTR interviewing Emmett Smith who just HAPPENED to be doing DWITS that season, so they talked a little about football and the rest on how Emmett will do on the show. Meanwhile one team was marching toward a TV and it felt like an afterthought to the announcers. That is when my true hatred of ESPN began.
At least we agree that ESPN is awful. As to preseason games, I don't think most viewers of these games are watching to see who wins. It's mostly about players vying for roster spots, position battles, and draft picks who may or may not be starters during the season. When Bears fans are watching a preseason game, do you think they would rather be watching Justin Fields play QB or one of the starters standing on the sideline jabbering with the announcers?
 

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Streaming-only package. This will be my third year with the streaming-only package. I was with DIRECTV for five years in my former residence. When I moved to a new town just about two years ago, fiber internet was available and I moved to all-streaming for everything.
Thanks, I figured you were a cord-cutter. I stream a lot of stuff, but I really hope the NFLST package doesn't become streaming-only when the DirecTV contract expires after next season. Streaming is fine for watching a game, but it would certainly limit how I watch the games and how many games I could watch. With DVR capabilities I often watch two or three games in the same slot and skip through the commercials to save time. And if the games overlap I don't have to miss the end of one game or the beginning of another. Sometimes I even stream a game on my tablet while I'm watching one or more games on the DVR. It wouldn't be the same without the DVR.
 

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In my humble opinion (and I understand mileage varies for each person and their viewing habits), the NFL Sunday Ticket streaming package is superior to how you can view games, in comparison to the satellite offerings.

I, myself, am a longtime Steelers fan. If the Steelers are on during the early window, that's the game I watch and nothing else. If they're on a primetime/late window slot and I can browse around in early afternoon, the Sunday Ticket streaming app allows you to pick and choose up to four games to display at the same time in a full-screen quad box setting. (In comparison to the 4-game mix, where you can't pick games, and there's the border around the screens.) I use this to either enjoy other AFC North opponents games, or I can utilize one of the screens with Red Zone Channel. It's also easy to swap games in and out if one becomes a complete blowout.

In regards to DVR capability, I don't need one. Short Cuts (losing this from the satellite package was unfortunate, IMO) are available for each game from Monday-Wednesday, and I can consume a whole game in 30 minutes with no commercials. I usually catch up on the games I didn't get to watch much through this. (This leads to a deeper rabbit hole that cord-cutters don't really need DVR capability, because of on-demand, but that's a whole other thread.)

From my vantage point, the only downside to streaming-only vs. DIRECTV satellite is not being able to quickly bounce back to a local affiliate game on CBS or FOX if I'm on a Sunday Ticket channel. However, I've come accustomed to quickly bouncing between apps, so it's not the burden that some make it out to be.
Thanks for the detailed reply. I would certainly subscribe to the streaming-only package if I had no other choice, but I certainly wouldn't like it as much. As a long-time fan of the Rams, I always watch their game in its entirety, although sometimes I do watch another game at the same time. I use a long wooden ruler to block the ticker at the bottom of the screen and I hit the 30-second skip if they do an update on another game. If I watch 2 games in the early slot, I can finish in about 4 1/2 hours and go to the late afternoon games without missing a play. If I do the same in the late slot, I can finish those games around 10 to 10:30 and then start the Sunday night game.

The problem with watching 4 games on a screen is that you only get the audio from one game at a time, and some of the plays are happening at the same time. I guess it really just comes down to how you Iike to watch the games. I do sometimes watch the shortcuts to see games I missed, but it's not quite the same when you know the outcome of a game, and you also miss the commentary between plays.

I don't subscribe to the Max package, so I only get Redzone Channel in the weeks when they offer a free trial. Even then, I rarely watch it. It can be fun to watch that way if there isn't one particular game you want to watch, but when they start putting 2, 3 or 4 games on the screen a once it starts to annoy me. They shrink them down too much and waste a large portion of the screen. I feel like I'm watching on cell phones.

Another drawback of the streaming package, at least with NFLST TV package, is that you are limited to one login. I imagine that's to prevent password sharing, but it also prevents me from using multiple devices at the same time in my own house. Is that also the case for the streaming-only package?
 

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Correct. The biggest hope for NFL Sunday Ticket, if it does move to a streaming-only offering, would be that you could at least get two simultaneous logins. That's where the satellite product takes an edge; you could have one game on the satellite and one game on a tablet/smaller connected TV at the same time, if a split-screen/quad-box format isn't for you.

I will take this approach, usually during a late window, if the local affiliate broadcast on YTTV is appealing enough to put on the TV (We're a one-TV home.) If it's not a priority watch, I can get plenty of look-ins in the late window through Red Zone Channel.
Yeah, they really should allow more than one login. After all, other family members might want to watch a different out-of-market game.
 

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I watched part of the Jacksonville-Dallas game at 1:00 p.m. on Sunday, mainly to make sure the app is still working on my tablet. The picture quality of the game was very good on my 12.4" Samsung tablet. The main drawback is the limited DVR functionality in the streaming app. If you start watching late, you can't start at the beginning and catch up, like you can with the TV version of the MLB.app (oddly, the MLB app that runs on my portable Android apps is lacking that functionality). You can pause and resume in the NFLST app, but I don't see any way to fast-forward or skip ahead to catch up. It would be nice if the app got updated to incorporate more DVR functionality.

On the other, with the streaming app I can still watch if rain fade knocks out the satellite reception during a storm. I recall a few years ago, before there was a streaming app, when a snowstorm the evening before a game blanketed my rooftop, where my dish is located. I was beside myself trying to figure out a way to clear the snow from the dish before gametime. Fortunately the sun came out in the morning, and even though the temperature never got above 30 degrees, the snow on the dish melted about an hour before gametime.
 

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Unfortunately, there hasn’t been a choice in previous seasons. That dates back to even the NFL Preseason Live days. As a Steelers fan who has become accustomed to watching the visiting broadcast in most preseason games, it’s a feature I’d love to see at some point.
Thanks, I've always just watched the preseason replays on NFL network, but I'm considering the yearly subscription to NFL+ for this season. As a Rams fan, it would be nice to get the LA telecast with Andrew Siciliano and the rest of that crew. Any idea what determines which telecast they use?

Another question pertaining to the live preseason telecasts - what DVR controls are available? Can you start at the beginning while the game is in progress, and is there a 30-second skip? And is there a 30-second skip on the regular-season replays?
 

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Thanks for the reply, B. Shoe. I use 30-second skip even when I'm watching ad-free recordings of games, because there are still dead spots in the telecasts, like when the teams are lining up for a kickoff between possessions. When the preseason starts I'm probably going to take the 7-day free trial to see how it works.

Are the preseason games archived or do you have to watch them live?
 

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Glad to hear the preseason games are archived, since they often conflict with baseball games this time of year. I don't mind watching preseason games after they are over, but there have been times when I've had to wait as long as 2 days for a replay of a Rams game on NFL Network.

There doesn't seem to be an NFL app on my Samsung TV - just the Sunday Ticket app. The NFL app on my Roku still has GamePass on the menu, but there is an item in the Trending section that says NFL+ is coming soon to connected TVs - it says just in time for the preseason, so maybe it will be available this week. I could try removing and reinstalling the app on the Roku, but it's a hassle to enter login credentials with the remote, so I think I'll wait a few days and check again. Thanks for the info, B. Shoe.
 

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The NFL app has now been updated on Roku to show NFL+. I see last night's preseason game is available with both a full-game and condensed-game replay for subscribers. How long do the replays remain available for the preseason games?
 

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Week 1 of the NFL preseason is complete. There are some subtle notes to acknowledge:
  • In condensed replays, transitions from play to play are done with a subtle crossfade. Last year, condensed replays were simply hard cuts from play to play that made viewing sometimes a little coarse to the ears. This is an improvement for those that watch a lot of condensed replays.
  • Commercials seem to be hit or miss, depending on the location. The Jacksonville-Cleveland game and others included commercial spots, while other games did not.
  • Biggest improvement from last year to this year: If NFL Network left a game early to make the start of a next one (Ex: NFL Net left Steelers-Seahawks for the late game of Rams-Chargers), the stream stayed with the game in the fourth quarter/late stages. In 2021, the stream for the Steelers-Seahawks would also leave early to follow the NFL Network broadcast.
How long are the condensed replays, and do they vary in length?
 
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