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3 Channels at once?!?!?

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I turned on the television and my HR20-100. It was showing an OTA channel. As I do on a regular basis I went to the To Do list to see what was scheduled to be recorded. At the top of the list were two different shows on two different satellite stations that showed as being recorded at that moment. I selected each program and they both showed as having 36 minutes recorded and it was 7:36pm. My first thought was that there was an issue recording one of the shows but I started to play each one and they were there. As soon as I hit play on the first one I lost the OTA channel, but that was to be expected. Later I watched both of the shows in their entirety, so they recorded fine.

Has anyone seen this before. It would be sweet to make it behave this way on purpose.
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I'm not totally familiar with how OTA works on the HR20, but isn't OTA handled by a separate OTA tuner inside the HR20. If that's the case, shouldn't the DVR be able to handle recording two shows (one on each tuner) while also displaying what is on the OTA tuner?

- Merg
Your unit was tuned to an OTA channel at the time that the two sat channels started to record. Thus the buffer has the OTA show which is what you were watching. Thus, when you selected to play a recording it flushed the buffer. At least that what I think has happened.
3 tuner DVR's would be nice.
SPACEMAKER said:
3 tuner DVR's would be nice.
I think with the OTA there are 3 tuners inside. Usually though you can only "use" 2 at once. Maybe he had a "malfunction". Once he began to "play" his recordings the reciever fixed it self
jdspencer said:
Your unit was tuned to an OTA channel at the time that the two sat channels started to record. Thus the buffer has the OTA show which is what you were watching. Thus, when you selected to play a recording it flushed the buffer. At least that what I think has happened.
I think you hit it being the buffer. That being said, it seems there must be a way to record two shows while watching a third live if the buffer is a separate area in memory.
sbelmont said:
I think you hit it being the buffer. That being said, it seems there must be a way to record two shows while watching a third live if the buffer is a separate area in memory.
DirecTV has chosen to limit the capacity of their DVRs to 2 recording tuners at a time. Even if there are 2 sat tuners, and 2 ota tuners, you can only record 2 things at a time.
This situation has been reported with DirecTV TiVos in the past. It was caused by watching the buffer behind real time.

The reason, IMHO, that DirecTV chose to only allow the recording of two tuners at a time is that the tuner controlling code was ported over from the DirecTV TiVo. When the HR10 was produced with its dual OTA tuners they just recoded enough so that the code would use a sat and OTA tuner as a pair. And this was just ported to the HR2x.
The only ways to juggle 3 shows is to: record 2 shows and watch a show off the dvr and also record 2 shows and watch a show from DoD(basically a recorded show) maybe with MRV coming that could be the 3rd way.
My HR20-100 has done this before on more than one occasion. My situation was similar to the OP. It was recording 2 shows on the regular tuners and I was watching one on an OTA tuner. I'ver never really tried to "force" the dvr to do this, but I have stumbled on it a couple of times.
Just as a side note, if recordings are padded and end up overlapping on the same channel, the DVR can actually appear to be recording anywhere from 2 to 8 recordings at the same time.

For example, if you record Monday night on CBS, there are 5 shows total from 8 to 11. Pad the first one to end 3 hours late. Pad the 2nd show to end 2.5 hours late. pad the 3rd one to end 2 hours late. Etc. Do the same with NBC, let's say there are 3 programs you record, and do the same with padding, so the 1st ends at 11, 2nd ends at 11, etc. If you look at your Playlist at 10:55, you will see 8 programs currently recording on CBS and NBC. It's quite cool to behold ... :)
CJTE said:
DirecTV has chosen to limit the capacity of their DVRs to 2 recording tuners at a time. Even if there are 2 sat tuners, and 2 ota tuners, you can only record 2 things at a time.
Correct. There are 4 tuners, 2 OTA and 2 DVB. They are all 4 active (IOW, receiving RF and demodulating it to a baseband data stream) at one time, but they are funneled into a router just before the demux process, which has only 2 outputs (4 in, 2 out--pick any 2).
jdspencer said:
This situation has been reported with DirecTV TiVos in the past. It was caused by watching the buffer behind real time.

The reason, IMHO, that DirecTV chose to only allow the recording of two tuners at a time is that the tuner controlling code was ported over from the DirecTV TiVo. When the HR10 was produced with its dual OTA tuners they just recoded enough so that the code would use a sat and OTA tuner as a pair. And this was just ported to the HR2x.
I don't think DirecTV ported anything over from the DirecTivos. It was my understanding that all the code on the directivos was owned by tivo and not DirecTV.
evan_s said:
I don't think DirecTV ported anything over from the DirecTivos. It was my understanding that all the code on the directivos was owned by tivo and not DirecTV.
That's correct; the code in the DVR Plus line is not related in any way to TiVo code. What JDSpencer was pointing out though is that the behavior of the buffers is similar to what was reported on TiVo receivers, thus explaining how the OP's situation occurred.
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