[Skeeterman]

Been sometime since I posted here, better late than never.

Here is my question(s).. I have a Dish Network 500 antenna with a dual pro LNB with 2 cables in. One cable going to a PVR 508 receiver, and other to a 301 receiver. This system is viewing to D/N 110, 119 satellites, and everything is working great with a signal strength of 73. Is that a good signal?

Here is my main question. Would it be better to buy another Dish 500 antenna with a single LNB to point the dish to get Dish 129 satellite for the HD signals, or buy the Dish Network 1000.2 antenna with the three LNBs?

Thanks in advance for the help here.

 

[BattleZone]

I personally recommend the 1000.2, BUT you might want to look at line-of-sight first. If you're standing behind the dish, 129 is about 10 degrees to the right of 119. Determine if the current dish location will allow LOS to 129, and if not, determine if there is any location where the dish could be moved to get all three. If not, then separate dishes is the better way to go.

The advantage of the 1000.2 dish, aside from only having one dish on the house, is that it has 3 DPP outputs that will support 3 single- or dual-tuner receivers.

 

[Skeeterman]

Thanks, IIP for the input to my questions.

Here's another thought. I can buy a D/N 1000.2 antenna on ebay with DPPlus triple LNBF(s) and all the hardware needed. With this 1000.2 antenna I can mount it right next (three feet) to my D/N 500 antenna which is on the side of the home, and run ( now or later) connect the older D/N500 to the Port IN of the 1000.2. Correct?

Logic tells me this would be great, as I could place the 1000.2 with the same Azimuth, Elevation, and Screw angles as on the 500 unit. Or at least this would get me in the signal ballpark.

 

[boba]

Been sometime since I posted here, better late than never.

Here is my question(s).. I have a Dish Network 500 antenna with a dual pro LNB with 2 cables in. One cable going to a PVR 508 receiver, and other to a 301 receiver. This system is viewing to D/N 110, 119 satellites, and everything is working great with a signal strength of 73. Is that a good signal?

Here is my main question. Would it be better to buy another Dish 500 antenna with a single LNB to point the dish to get Dish 129 satellite for the HD signals, or buy the Dish Network 1000.2 antenna with the three LNBs?

Thanks in advance for the help here.

Neither the 508 or the 301 can receive HDTV off 129 so why do you want to buy a 1000.2. When you upgrade your receiver DISH should upgrade your dish also.

In your second post what would you receive off the dish 500 that you could add to the 1000.2.

 

[BobaBird]

From post #1, I think what you really have is a DishPro Twin with 2 cables out to the receivers. If you add another dish, you'll also need either an external switch or replace the DP Twin with a DP Plus Twin.

Assuming you have line of sight, the 1000.2 is a better choice. Before you do that though, check to see if your HD locals are available and which satellite they come from.

Or as a wise man once said, once being not quite 5 hours ago , just let Dish take care of it.

 

[Skeeterman]

From post #1, I think what you really have is a Dish Pro Twin with 2 cables out to the receivers. If you add another dish, you'll also need either an external switch or replace the DP Twin with a DP Plus Twin.

Assuming you have line of sight, the 1000.2 is a better choice. Before you do that though, check to see if your HD locals are available and which satellite they come from.

Or as a wise man once said, once being not quite 5 hours ago , just let Dish take care of it.

In checking the LNB at the dish, I find it's a dpPro Twin. It has markings of 110 on one side and 119 on the other. So, it would appear that I have two ports out, one to each receiver(two)...one a 508DVR and 301.

From reading all your material you have published on the Internet, I could keep my Dish 500, and add a Dish 300 with a single LNB to get one of the other satellites. Correct?

Note: I'm seriouly looking to buy a Vip622, ViP211. ViP411, or ViP722 to replace the 301 receiver.
One of these receivers will get my HD, and have the MEPG-4 software.

 

[topcat0399]

In checking the LNB at the dish, I find it's a dpPro Twin. It has markings of 110 on one side and 119 on the other. So, it would appear that I have two ports out, one to each receiver(two)...one a 508DVR and 301.

From reading all your material you have published on the Internet, I could keep my Dish 500, and add a Dish 300 with a single LNB to get one of the other satellites. Correct?

Note: I'm seriouly looking to buy a Vip622, ViP211. ViP411, or ViP722 to replace the 301 receiver.
One of these receivers will get my HD, and have the MEPG-4 software.

cant add a wing dish to a DishPro Twin. Theres no way to connect it.

gotta have a Dish Pro Plus Twin.

also, you are going to need that DPPtwin anyway so you can run that new dual tuner with one cable.

 

[Skeeterman]

cant add a wing dish to a DishPro Twin. Theres no way to connect it.

gotta have a Dish Pro Plus Twin.

also, you are going to need that DPPtwin anyway so you can run that new dual tuner with one cable.

Thanks, I failed to mentioned that I would change out the dp twin for a dualpro twin that has one(1) LNB in port, and two (2) out ports to receivers.

 

[boba]

If you are SMART you will contact DISH and lease that HDTV receiver from them and get free upgrades to receive the signals you need. Leasing will not cost you more than buying.

 

[Skeeterman]

If you are SMART you will contact DISH and lease that HDTV receiver from them and get free upgrades to receive the signals you need. Leasing will not cost you more than buying.

I will never in my life will lease any equipment, or sign a agreement with Dish Network, or any other on air programmer.

My years of programming with D/N has been "without a signed agreement, or leased equipment".

I own my 508 DR and 301 receivers, and in 2001 I had a D.N technician come out an install the antenna and setup the receivers.

LEASED EQUIPMENT

A. If you decide to lease your Equipment from DISH Network, such Equipment shall at all times remain the sole and exclusive property of DISH Network and we will have the right, at our discretion, to replace it with new or reconditioned equipment and to remove the equipment upon termination of Services. None of the equipment shall be deemed fixtures or part of your realty. Our ownership of the equipment may be displayed by notice contained on the equipment. You shall have no right to pledge, sell, mortgage, give away or remove, relocate, alter or tamper with the equipment (or any notice of our ownership thereon) at any time. Any reinstallation, return of or change in location of the equipment shall be performed by us at the service rates in effect at the time of service. You shall not attach any electrical or other devices to or otherwise alter the equipment without our prior written consent. DISH Network shall have the right to make such filings as are necessary to evidence our ownership rights in the equipment, and you agree to execute any and all documents as are necessary for us to make such filings. Upon termination of Services, you must notify our Customer Service Center to schedule the return the Equipment.

B. You shall notify us promptly of any defect in, damage to, or accident involving the equipment. All maintenance and repair of the equipment shall be performed by us or our designees. DISH Network may charge you for any repairs that are necessitated by any damage to, or misuse of, the Equipment.

 

[boba]

Sketerman all I can say is a fool and his money are soon parted. What good is owning the equipment if you don't have service. How much do you think your 301 and 508 are worth just check Ebay if you think they are valuable.

 

[Skeeterman]

Skeeterman all I can say is a fool and his money are soon parted. What good is owning the equipment if you don't have service. How much do you think your 301 and 508 are worth just check Ebay if you think they are valuable.

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My 74 years in life didn't teach me to part with my money and not have anything to show for it. That would be the case you have when you pay Charlie ...the snowboarding Dish man for the use of his equipment. You never have anything to show for it.

As for the 508 and 301 units, they still work, and never...and I mean "never" had one problem. Just this morning I ordered a Dish ViP 222 to replace the 301 unit. I've never used the 508 for recording purposes, and really don't know if it works. There wouldn't be any reason for me to order the ViP 222, if there wasn't a change to HD programming.

I don't part with my money ...unwisely..

 

[James Long]

Purchasing instead of leasing is a decision ... expensive in the short run but (usually) with no commitment to long term expense. That's the killer in leasing ... the long term payments.

DISH does have one of the better leasing arrangements - although the "lease upgrade fee" (which is generally refunded via programming credits) is a big chunk of the lease. The actual lease fee for a second receiver is not any higher than one pays for just having a second fully owned receiver on the account.

I can understand why the older generation would be more interested in ownership (at any cost) vs leasing (even if cheaper). Leasing is a relatively new concept for consumer equipment - and with satellite equipment it isn't even a "rent to own" situation. Older generations learned to work with cash more than credit. One saved up and bought something if you wanted it ... and sold it or passed it on when you didn't want it any more. Leasing doesn't allow that.

If you can break from that stereotype and look at the long term cost you may find leasing to be a good deal. The dishes and other equipment is often free or cheap if you just go along with the deal being offered. But it is still a decision.

There are no fools ... just a decision.

 

[blooker68]

Check around and see how strong the signal strength is from 129. If it stinks like it does here, I'd install another antenna for 61.5. I did and it works great thanks to the super helpful people on this forum.

Since I 'moved' to Atlanta, I have to do my own antenna work here.
Also, I own my equipment and only subscribe month to month. Independence is a wonderful thing. I used to trust Charlie E, but after the Voom thing, that's no longer true.