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Adding HR34 to Ethernet connected whole-home network

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My current setup is pretty simple and consists of one HR20 and two HR22's connected via a SWM-8 and all hardwired to my Ethernet network. No DECA. Whole-home works flawlessly over the Ethernet even though I know it's not officially supported.

I want to add an HR34 for PIP as well as the 6 additional tuners. Do I need to upgrade to a SWM-16? Can I just plug the HR34 into my Ethernet network and be good? Or, is more change required. I do not use OTA.

Doug
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You will end up with a Total of 9 tuners , You can plug your HR34 into your existing Network, You can also disable one of the HR's tuners to get you to 8 tuners and not have to upgrade to a swm16.
WestDC said:
You will end up with a Total of 9 tuners , You can plug your HR34 into your existing Network, You can also disable one of the HR's tuners to get you to 8 tuners and not have to upgrade to a swm16.
3 DVRs + 1 HR34 = 11 tuners

SWiM-16 or two SWM8s will be needed.
So I need a new SWM, but don't require DECA. Is that correct?
jdoug said:
So I need a new SWM, but don't require DECA. Is that correct?
The HR34 only works on a SWiM, and you're at 6 of the 8 tuner limit, so you'll need to add/change the SWiM you have.
The HR34 has an internal DECA, so you may have problems if you're not using DECA, since it doesn't get disabled when you plug in an ethernet cable [like the 24s do]. You might need to use some bandstop filters to block the DECA signal from the other receivers as it can cause some problems with the SAT tuners.
veryoldschool said:
You might need to use some bandstop filters to block the DECA signal from the other receivers as it can cause some problems with the SAT tuners.
Like this? http://www.amazon.com/DECA-Band-Filter-DirecTv-BSFR0-01/dp/B005051UWC

Any diagrams floating around showing this kind of configuration? Anything showing 2 SWiM-8's?
jdoug said:
Like this? http://www.amazon.com/DECA-Band-Filter-DirecTv-BSFR0-01/dp/B005051UWC

Any diagrams floating around showing this kind of configuration? Anything showing 2 SWiM-8's?
That is the BSF. I don't like using it directly on the HR34 because it sends the DECA signal right back into the DECA without any attenuation. You could tap it out with a diplexer and terminated it, so use BSF on all the other receivers.

This shows how to connect two WB68 switches, and a SWM8 connects the same so it should help.

http://hr20.dbstalk.com/docs/Dish, Multiswitch and Cable FAQ.pdf

As I have my second cup of coffee, if you keep the HR34 on its own SWM8, without and other receivers, there isn't any need for a BSF.
If I use 2 SWM8's and isolate the HR2x's on one and the HR34 on the other will that do the job of preventing the DECA signal from messing with the HR2x's?
jdoug said:
If I use 2 SWM8's and isolate the HR2x's on one and the HR34 on the other will that do the job of preventing the DECA signal from messing with the HR2x's?
Yes, that's what came to mind with my second cup of coffee.
Should go use a SWiM-16, you'll need the BSF because it has a crossover for the DECA.
I missed your update. So that seems to be the way to go.

So in summary I just have to get another SWM8 with power supply and four wide-band (250 MHz to 2150 MHz) splitters that I'll connect to the LNB outputs to allow me to connect both SWM8's to the LNB. Connect the HR34 to the new SWM8 and my Ethernet network and I should be good. Right?
jdoug said:
I missed your update. So that seems to be the way to go.

So in summary I just have to get another SWM8 with power supply and four wide-band (250 MHz to 2150 MHz) splitters that I'll connect to the LNB outputs to allow me to connect both SWM8's to the LNB. Connect the HR34 to the new SWM8 and my Ethernet network and I should be good. Right?
You're getting it, but the splitters also need to be "power passing".

These have been a good choice: http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...-for-Off-air-and-Satellite-signals-(SKY23302D
Thanks VOS. Excellent information.
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