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· Native American Potentate
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I read in the other forum that E stated in FCC filings that ALL equipment would be swapped out. Is there any validity to this?


I know there is lots of speculation about the merger, just like about the demise of superstations but I have lost track of what is fact and what is speculation.
 

· Damn you woman!
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I would assume it would be years before they swapped anything out. Why bother, you don't have any competition. :shrug:

Move sports and HTDV to DirecTV, and make Dish a lower end brand... Let them have their damn supers. :D
 

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All we have to go on is what they tell the government. They say they will swap out all the boxes both Dish and Direct by 2005. Actually it is in their best interest to do this. By doing this they can accomplish 3 things:

1. Increase their carrying capacity right away by 50% and in the future 100% by using new ecoding methods such as 8PSK now and 16QAM in the future. By using new chip sets that can decode the present and these future encodings they have an expansion path as they improve their satellites in orbit.

2. Combat piracy. They can use the newest technology to fight piracy. Right now they have to support all the old boxes that uses technology that has been hacked to death. They can barely stay ahead of hackers with new cards only to have to start all over again.

3. Make only one set of channels on the sats. Right now E* and D* use different encoding/encrypting techniques that the other companies boxes cannot decode.
 

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Consolidation is the last thing on their minds. The first thing is more profitability. After they get it all sorted out, then consolidation will commence. They need to show how the merger will make them more money or the shareholders will ask for Charlie's head.

Ask yourself where the money will come to put millions of new PVRs and Receivers on everyones tv? They don't have it yet. I'd assume I'll be running a DirecTV receiver for at least 2 more years. :shrug:
 

· Native American Potentate
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NO NO NO. Not more speculation. Can anyone tell me if they know it is FACT. Do such FCC filings exist? We already have 325 threads specualting on this. Like RKing said POST THE LINK.


I have noticed the same reports in both forums but by the same people and with no links.:shrug:
 

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Well I went to look to get the link to post here and the FCC site says it is down:

NOTICE: The Electronic Document Management System (EDOCS) Database of FCC Documents will be unavailable to the public between 7:00 pm and midnight EDT on Wednesday, August 28 and the FCC Internet web site will be unavailable to the public between 9:00 pm and 11:00 pm EDT on Thursday, August 29, for routine maintenance.

The docket number is: 01-348
I think the link is:
http://www.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/EFBoards/systemstatus.cgi?index_t=../../pub/e-file/EFBoards.html
 

· Native American Potentate
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That should work Mike! Great! I was unable to find anything anywhere with a search but perhaps when the FCC site is up again I will.
 

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This is a doc describing why the merger should go through:

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6513287288

This one describes why they will not do LIL if no merger, but redacted (important business numbers and facts whited out)

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6513285691

Broadband plans:

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6513284857

and (better info)

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6513197692

What goes into new box platform decisions, and transition schedule:

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6513197175

Good doc on current and future satellites and on combining the two settop boxes over 36 months:
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6513193981

How the new echostar 1 will get LIL to all markets... 54 spot beams:

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6513189146

Now in none of these documents do they say exactly what they will do, but in their SEC filings they said they were planning on a 2.5billion dollar charge for replacing set top boxes. It was reported in the skyreport:

http://www.skyreport.com/skyreport/may2002/053002.htm#three
 

· Native American Potentate
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Thanks for a complete list Mike. I still think there plans are unclear but I also see why you think what you do. The info is greatly appreciated.

I see lots of statements about a move to a single platform but I don't see an identification of what that platform will be. Admittedly there is a lot to go through here. But it still presents a much clearer picture and I think it is great that you shared this.



And of course customers will pay. it is a business. In the end customers always pay.
 
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