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I was wondering if Directv is planning on upgrading the HR* platforms? Is anything in development? Release dates? I love my HR24, but the interface is tired and outdated. My girlfriend has DISH and the interface seems fresh and modern with lots of color and logos, etc. Still love my HR24, but it needs a face lift.
 

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DirecTV is now providing the Genie products (HR34 / HR44) as the latest devices. However the interface and menu are pretty much the same as the HR24. I would not expect any new HR2x series products, and I would not expect a significant change in the user interface.

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DIRECTV seems to be putting lots effort on its genie platform. Is very unlikely that the dual tunners DVRs will ever see a refresh any time soon, if ever


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peds48 said:
DIRECTV seems to be putting lots effort on its genie platform. Is very unlikely that the dual tunners DVRs will ever see a refresh any time soon, if ever

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Agreed.

They seem to be completely heading to an one server and multitudes of wireless clients. Which would not be bad if the server storage was backup in a cloud, but it is not.

Personally, I consider this 'new' direction to be a step backwards for the end customer.
 

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Agreed.

They seem to be completely heading to an one server and multitudes of wireless clients. Which would not be bad if the server storage was backup in a cloud, but it is not.

Personally, I consider this 'new' direction to be a step backwards for the end customer.
I agree- Lose the server and everything else is gone -till replaced :blackeye:
 

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I wouldn't expect any new dual-tuner models to come out; there is no need now that Genie is widely available. DirecTV is in replacement mode for the dual-tuner DVRs. I had an HR21 go out last week (hard drive failure). My daughter was a bit disappointed to lose whatever silly shows she had recorded on their, but at least I have a list from the Series Manager from a month or so ago. DirecTV replaced it with an HR24. I also have an HR23 and an HR34 in my system.
Something to keep in mind is that DirecTV has two interfaces available, their own and TiVo, which has several enhancements not available on the standard boxes. While the TiVo interface has it's own issues, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a TiVoGenie announcement in the near future.

Having a cloud backup would be a nice feature, and it wouldn't be terribly difficult to implement. DirecTV already knows what shows you have recorded on your DVR, so they easily keep a database of those shows a la NetFlix available in the cloud and download them to your replacement box upon activation, along with your Series Manager subscriptions. This would be a huge value-add.
 
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MrWindows said:
Having a cloud backup would be a nice feature, and it wouldn't be terribly difficult to implement.
That they haven't implemented any manner of backup to date suggests that it isn't terribly trivial. While it may be programmatically quite easy, I think it likely contractual hurdles. Where DISH has implemented archiving, they've done so in a way that insures that there is only one copy of each recording and that's clearly not a backup (although you can obviously create more than one recording of most programs).
 

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I agree- Lose the server and everything else is gone -till replaced :blackeye:
If the server was a simple multi-tuner chip in a box with SWM in and network out; no video output capability, no fan and an external power supply while it won't be failure proof it certainly won't be failure prone. It could combine the PI, GenieGo and CCK in a single box the size of the current PI-29. This would be preferable for those of you who want backup capability or more storage, since you aren't restricted to a single drive the Genie comes with. You can add a box that contains more than one disk, for protection and/or storage.

If they update Genie to support NAS so you don't need to plug in storage directly, you would theoretically be able to point it at cloud storage though if you can add as much storage as you want that's RAID protected there's probably not much point. If only Directv were owned by a company that has been doing networking for more than half a century, things like that might happen :)
 

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I wonder how soon it will be before DTV says the main HD DVR in the home will have to be a Genie and not just an upgrade? Then if that happens will DTV decide to phase out all legacy equipment or still let it be connected to a Genie DVR? Or just have only SWIM based equipment hooked up to the Genie?
 

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CraigerM said:
I wonder how soon it will be before DTV says the main HD DVR in the home will have to be a Genie and not just an upgrade? Then if that happens will DTV decide to phase out all legacy equipment or still let it be connected to a Genie DVR? Or just have only SWIM based equipment hooked up to the Genie?
It will be a very very long time before Directv phases out non-Genie equipment, if they ever do. They haven't even phased out SD only receivers that are over a decade old. You can see where they are going 'someday' by watching what they do for new installs. New installs are HD only, SWM only. If at some point in the future they won't install H2x or HR2x for new customers, you'll know those will be phased out, but it would obviously be many years later before they forced existing customers to drop them.
 

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CraigerM said:
I wonder how soon it will be before DTV says the main HD DVR in the home will have to be a Genie and not just an upgrade? Then if that happens will DTV decide to phase out all legacy equipment or still let it be connected to a Genie DVR? Or just have only SWIM based equipment hooked up to the Genie?
I think the receiver considered "main" or "primary" is just an accounting quirk. Also, as far as legacy equipment goes, I think HR2x receivers aren't going anywhere within any foreseeable future. They can communicate with a CCK and do whole-home, so they should be around a long time.
 

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Well peds48 or one of the other installers can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they are installing a legacy LNB for people who get a single receiver or DVR any more. That the newer equipment is SWM only clearly shows that is their direction - despite the chipset used in the H25 and Genie being fully capable of legacy operation. It was disabled in software, it is not a hardware limitation.
 

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All new installs are SWM only., regardless of type and quantity of receivers


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Yes-They are SWM only installs - And Legacy LNB would be required on any New Install or Upgrade that requires 9 or more Tuners -Still making it a "SWM" install.
 

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slice1900 said:
Well peds48 or one of the other installers can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they are installing a legacy LNB for people who get a single receiver or DVR any more. That the newer equipment is SWM only clearly shows that is their direction - despite the chipset used in the H25 and Genie being fully capable of legacy operation. It was disabled in software, it is not a hardware limitation.
There is a hardware limitation in that the Genie only has one tuner input, so I cannot see it handling 5 legacy inputs.
 

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There is a hardware limitation in that the Genie only has one tuner input, so I cannot see it handling 5 legacy inputs.
True, making customers run four coaxes to an internal multiswitch would have reduced the uptake of the Genie considerably :)
 
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