Anyone receiving KOIN/CBS from Portland - Is your audio 'Screechy'?

rbonzer said:

I just checked Big Bang Theory and it seemed ok. Everything was coming out of the center channel except the laugh track.

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The center channel was not what I was referring to, it is the 'sound' that is relegated to the center, ie talk,speech that I was suggesting was very screechy sounding.

Also, I got a chance to see/listen to KOIN via antenna, and it is identical screechy audio, so not a Dish specific issue.

Compare the voices of prime time shows (man or woman) with your real life voices, do ppl sound like that? I think not, not even if you stuck a microphone in front of their mouths.

Compare to other channels, except CNN, its audio is essentially identical & lousy/screechy.

But I suppose I am one of the few ppl who knows how an actual real voice &/or good audio sounds like, even poorly executed network tv audio.

Ah, the burden of objective observation, sigh!

Once again, if other channels DO NOT sound like that, & the Eugene Oregon CBS does NOT sound like that (or Sacrament & San Francisco CBS stations), how can it be MY equipment, simple logic yes?

My AVR is fine, my speakers are apparently better than most ppls, yours, DVD's & blu-ray sound fine, I suppose my speakers and my ears and my attention to 'non harsh voice' makes me a bit judgmental especially when it is as 'screechy' and ugly as KOIN audio!

Some ppl are tone deaf, do not hear like most of us, so.....

I actually just changed locals, just to GET away from the screechy CBS sound, so I am happier, KOIN still sounds like 'crappy cell phone-screetch' but I no longer care!

Suggestion: learn what good audio sounds like, then music will be even more enjoyable, but you may have to upgrade equipment to please those educated ears, and it is true, the brain tells us what is pleasant realistic audio, but first you must 'know/learn' what good audio sounds like, I do! But the 'mp3' generation mostly does not know what good audio is, nor the loud amplified music group as well.

Go listen to un-amplified music (acoustic), & voice/singer, you will learn quickly what good audio is, and it is so wonderful, but you have to care I suppose, or make the effort?!

I care, some of us do, love good music/audio, TV really at best has mediocre sound, movies channels a bit better.

I surrender! I will take my 'good audio' ears and go home now.

Best wishes, Have a good life, some day have some good sound & love it!

Poke me with a fork I am done!

harsh said:

Which is why I'm inclined to believe that the problem is on your end (or during periods when none of us is viewing).That would be a horrible assumption. My audio comes through an AVR (not just an HTiB) as well.I haven't had occasion to watch CNN since it went HD (and it was probably during Gulf One before that.

I still suspect, with all of your blustering and finger pointing, that there's something wrong with your setup.

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I realized that everyone is an expert here, but guess what?

I am back in San Francisco area, and the CBS station sounds just fine, EXACTLY how I earlier noted, the Portland, Oregon CBS station does NOT sound this good, Screechy on ANY broadcast, live or delayed! (I just happen to have a 'Mentalist' from Portland CBS station on DVR, Screechy audio compared to San Fran Mentalist!)

Oh guess what, same equipment, same ears, same audio/brain assessment capability.

So all you experts, who say "It's just you, your equipment" are well, living in the land of Harry Potter! or delusional, or not objective!

Thus, since I am the only person that hears this, but of course who else experiences the Portland CBS stations and the Eugene, Or stations & the Sacramento, Ca stations, the San Francisco, Ca stations, Oh yeah ME!

But of course all you others 'know what you speak' !

Ding, ding, ding, Delusional is the correct answer!!

PS: Psst, Santa Clause is real! Yeah, keep believing you are correct!

harsh said:

You're assuming that everyone is physically experiencing the problem(s) that you make a mountain of. It is NOT reasonable to assume that they must also be suffering horribly or they're necessarily hearing impaired and/or their audio system (and its associated listening environment) obviously vastly inferior to yours.

Logic suggests that if one person is having problems and NOBODY else does, that one person most likely has a unique situation that manifests the problem. The other possibility is that everyone else who responded is lying. Given how much fun it is to wind you up and watch your spin, that's maybe not out of the realm of possibility, but I doubt it.

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Thx for your cordial response, unusual!
(many emails to tech. guy @ KOIN, he did not hear what I heard, of course)

101 debugging, COMPARE things!

No, when you switch to Eugene, Or CBS station 1 day, sound ok & then switch to Portland, Or CBS station the same day, and the sound is I describe (Screechy), it is NOT the equipment or setup, tell me how it could be - read my complete post(s).

I also heard the same audio harshness via antenna, NOT a Dish issue actually, originally thought it was as did KOIN tech!

I once was a fairly fervent audiophile, had some very nice B&W, electrostatic panel, etc speakers, about $15k+ at any one time (a bit of $ back 80's & 90's) so I am very aware of resonances, live-room-dead-room, reflections, beaming, etc. (besides my current Sony recvr has a mic and does level setting/eq, but you then need to tailor eq/level balancing to your liking).

When the exact equipment (cables & all) does NOT have harsh sound on other tv channels, DVD's, BluRay video/audio, both DTS & DD all 5.1 at both high and low bits rates, then it is NOT the equipment, NOR me.

I even heard similar harshness via my HD monitor speakers, which are awful, cheap speakers (like all that I have ever heard).

So either ppl do not know what I hear, OR what 'good' HD TV sound is or what good audio is or should be or ???????

I also do not believe that just because only 1 person hears harsh sound does not mean it does not exist, lots of events in history has shown this! (not that this is historical of course!!)

Good day!

Orion9 said:

Back when this thread was new, I noticed nothing unusual about KOIN sound. I still don't.

In any case, since you said:

It sounds like a dish network forum is unlikely to solve this problem. Possibly KOIN, but I suspect something odd with your setup.

I spent several minutes googling things like KOIN TV sound, KOIN TV audio, KOIN TV bad audio etc. My searches found this thread multiple times, but didn't find other complaints. (Except for one closed thread from 2001 about pulsating sound on a certain set top box.)

In years past I have sometimes thought I had an audio problem that turned out to be something in the room resonating, like a picture frame or glass in a cabinet door etc.

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