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I just picked up a HR-22 yesterday for my second HDTV that I have. The TV is a 5 year old 52 inch rear projector (1080i). I got the HR-22 hooked up fine, activated and it is working just fine. However, I noticed that some of the picture is cut off on the left side of the screen and I can't figure out why. I was watching ESPN News HD and the stuff on the left where scores are displayed and stats are given was cut off. The box is set for a 16:9 TV and I have the format set to 1080i original format. I even tried it on the crop, stretch, and pillar box formats and nothing changed. Any ideas on what the problem is?

I have a LCD upstairs with a HR-20 and the same channel works just fine, nothing is cut off at all. Is this an issue with my TV or the HR-22?
 

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I'm suspecting this is an issue with the TV. It it doesn't have alignment controls that you can get to, you might try changing the resolution to 720p just to see if it fixes things.
 

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This is what's called overscan [in your TV]. It seems you need to have it adjusted. This is best done by a Tech/service call [TV not DirecTV].
If you need to prove it's not the new receiver, move it over to your other TV and check it there.
 

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I used to have a 57 inch CRT rear proj. I also had really bad overscan with it. I had a service tech come out and he was able to get rid of just about all of the over scan problem.
 

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Stuart Sweet said:
I'm suspecting this is an issue with the TV. It it doesn't have alignment controls that you can get to, you might try changing the resolution to 720p just to see if it fixes things.
It does have alignment controls that you can play with, I will check that out tonight.

I tired it on 720P but the TV is only 1080i so the 720P just shows up as a black screen.
 

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Michael D'Angelo;1786799 said:
You older TV has a overscan problem. A couple of my TV's do the same thing. Just about any older RPTV does it.

BTW ESPNEWS HD is really the only channel I have a problem with it.
Yes, ESPNEWS HD is really the only channel I noticed. I can tell that the scroll on ESPN is a bit lower than my TV upstairs but I can still see all the scores just fine.
 

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Some CRT type RPT have vert/Horz size adjustments along with the vert/Horz position controls. There also may be controls for pin cushion and barrel adjustments. But if those measurement are OK don't touch them. Use the HDnet pattern or a test DVD to use as a reference. I would usually eliminate as much overscan as possible then check the TV with real channels to see if I needed to provide a bit more overscan to eliminate edge stuff or noise.
 

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mtm said:
It does have alignment controls that you can play with, I will check that out tonight.

I tired it on 720P but the TV is only 1080i so the 720P just shows up as a black screen.
It sounds like a Mitsubishi RPTV, am I correct? The Mitsubishi RPTV models from earlier this decade did 1080i, but not 720p.

If that is what you have, try http://www.hometheaterspot.com/. In their tweaks section, they offer some tips you may be able to use. I've done some of that stuff on mine, and have actually used HDNET's test pattern during the process with great results.

BTW - some of those Mitsubishi RPTV's when properly set up still rival the picture of some of today's best TV's. The red push problem is also easy to fix for about $15, as the site will show you.........

;)
 

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It is an issue with overscan, as mentioned above.

Overscan is an area of the picture that is assumed/supposed to be cut off. Any image put on TV is supposed to take into account the section of picture lost (see Safe area).

But over time, even though the spec for overscan on HDTVs hasn't changed, the actual amount of overscan on HDTVs is going down and down with each new model year. This is likely because panels are becoming common and panels work well (in fact best) with 0% overscan, overscan was really created to deal with projectors (including CRTs which acted as projectors) and the matting caused by the projection screen.

With the rate we are going, 0% overscan will be the de facto standard within 3 years I would think.

Broadcasters are using safe areas corresponding to more recent TVs instead of to the spec, so those with older HDTVs are kind of boned. Since you have a tube HDTV, there's a chance you can adjust the overscan.

To anyone out there reading this, if you buy a new HDTV I would strongly recommend you get a model that can be set to 0% overscan, or else you may regret it in a few years.
 

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flipptyfloppity,

Agree completely. The tweaks I referenced earlier suggest 3-5% on the Mitsu's from 2000-2002.......

The HDNET test pattern makes it easy to do as long as you are OK with going into the service menu (where you can kill your TV if you are not careful). :eek2:
 

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Athlon646464 said:
It sounds like a Mitsubishi RPTV, am I correct? The Mitsubishi RPTV models from earlier this decade did 1080i, but not 720p.

If that is what you have, try http://www.hometheaterspot.com/. In their tweaks section, they offer some tips you may be able to use. I've done some of that stuff on mine, and have actually used HDNET's test pattern during the process with great results.

BTW - some of those Mitsubishi RPTV's when properly set up still rival the picture of some of today's best TV's. The red push problem is also easy to fix for about $15, as the site will show you.........

;)
Nope, it's actually a Panasonic. I don't know the model number off hand.
 
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