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Bad LNB? (zeros on half of the 101 transponders)

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Hi all.

This morning, we lost signal (on all 3 boxes). The picture pixelated and then broke up and went away. At first, we thought it was the rain as it was coming down pretty hard. However, it lightened up to a light rain and still no picture.

I took a look at the transponder signals and am getting zero's on over half of them on the 101. The 110 is getting singals to the transponders, but somewhat weak and the 103 and 119 are getting signal as well. These readings are consistent on all three of my receivers (H20, old Tivo unit and an old D10).

Nothing happened to the dish as far as getting out of alignment.

Could this be a LNB gone bad? I've got the first generation 5LNB (AT9/Sidecar).
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Sounds to me, considering the rain, like a wet/bad coax connection. If you can get to them, take them apart and check/clean them up. Make sure they are tight.
I had my LNB go out in July. Sounds like that may be your problem.
It could be a bad LNB, bad cabling, or a bad multiswitch (if you are using one). You need a service call, which should including replacing your old AT9 with a Slimline.
IIP said:
It could be a bad LNB, bad cabling, or a bad multiswitch (if you are using one). You need a service call, which should including replacing your old AT9 with a Slimline.
I'm not using a multiswitch, so its not that. I have a feeling its a loose and/or wet coax connection. I am getting strong signals on some transponders and zero on others and low on yet, others.l

I've got a service call set up (thank goodness for the protection plan) for Monday. If its the coax then it should be a quick fix, it its the LNB, then I'd probably get a new dish (Slimline), eh?
Most service calls, the ones I have seen anyway, the tech replaces(upgrades) the sidecar, whether it needs it or not. Fewer external connections and a little better LNB.
Which half is missing? Odds? Evens? Or some other combination?
It's nirmal for some TPs on 101 to be zero. Those are spot beams not servicing your area.
it is totally normal for some transponders to come in 0 or na it sounds like a bad lnb you do have a multi switch but if its a newer dish then its built in
Did a dish install this weekend. Was getting 0s on odd TPs.

Turned out house wiring had a splitter in the line somewhere.
I have the same problem. All the even transponders are zero and the odds are fine on both 101 and 99C. They are coming tomorrow to check it. We have had rain here, but nothing else significant has happen since it started. I just took all of the signal level readings on the 22nd of August and everything was fine then. This started a couple of days ago. I have the slimline and a multi-switch, but the switch is inside out of the weather.
If you don't have a SWM, the 13volts or 18volts DC from the receiver must reach the dish in order for it to switch from even to odd (H & V respectively) transponders. If this DC voltage is blocked (splitter or other unauthorized device in the coax line), or there is a bad connection, you will experience this problem.

HOWEVER, if all the transponders on the 119 are OK but half of them on the 101 don't work, chances are good that you have a bad LNB or a bad multiswitch which is built in to every dish that receives more than one satellite.
powerplay said:
I have the same problem. All the even transponders are zero and the odds are fine on both 101 and 99C. They are coming tomorrow to check it. We have had rain here, but nothing else significant has happen since it started. I just took all of the signal level readings on the 22nd of August and everything was fine then. This started a couple of days ago. I have the slimline and a multi-switch, but the switch is inside out of the weather.
The 18 volt cable from your multi-switch to the dish is either very loose or bad [most likely].
veryoldschool said:
The 18 volt cable from your multi-switch to the dish is either very loose or bad [most likely].
He said he doesn't have a multiswitch. ;)
Every other 101 transponder went out on one of my mom's receivers and it was the cable going to the receiver. Water had gotten into the pipe it was in and corroded the cable.
ThomasM said:
He said he doesn't have a multiswitch. ;)
If you look at the post I replied to it lists a Slimline & multi-switch.
Mine is an AT9. The zero readings on the transponders weren't just odd or even, but a hodgepodge.

For instance, yesterday afternoon, during the rain, my readings on the 101 for 1-8 were like this:

1-8 0 0 0 0 56 0 58 61

Once it dried out, the readings went back to the 90s. This happened all weekend whenver the rain started. Usually over half of the transponders went to zero.
If you have the protection plan on your account, you could have DirecTV send a tech to fix it. If you don't have the plan and are a little handy, a compression tool kit will cost less and you can fix it on your own schedule.
If you have an AT9 or an AU9 you have a 4 output multiswitch built in.
Proc said:
Mine is an AT9. The zero readings on the transponders weren't just odd or even, but a hodgepodge.

For instance, yesterday afternoon, during the rain, my readings on the 101 for 1-8 were like this:

1-8 0 0 0 0 56 0 58 61

Once it dried out, the readings went back to the 90s. This happened all weekend whenver the rain started. Usually over half of the transponders went to zero.
Be looking to angle for a Slimline replacement as an integral part of your service call.
veryoldschool said:
The 18 volt cable from your multi-switch to the dish is either very loose or bad [most likely].
You are right on the money! The DTV tech came and went right to the multi-switch. Once he looked at the readings, he said it wasn't the LNBs and it was the switch. He found one of the four cables coming from the dish was disconnected. He said when they did the install they forgot to crimp one of the connectors.
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