It doesn't impact all Century Link customers but if you want to order said programming the only option is to remove your join billing. Most people will never hear of this until they get a customer who wants to order adult programming. I'm not sure if it's the way CL does their content management or if they're just adhering to some legislation that exists, which restricts what kind of adult channels can be viewed by state/counties, so they just make a blanket no.ronsanjim said:
Bundle with CenturyLink, Lose adult programming
If you call CenturyLink or Directv, they perhaps have asked what satellite or local phone service you have in an attempt to have you combine your billing between those 2 companies. If you agree, CenturyLink will knock $5.00 off your monthly bill.
Well I took the offer, and here's the kicker. From the Directv Letter of Confirmation:
Mind you, I don't need or require "adult programming", and have not purchased it, or intend to, in the future. But I object to CenturyLink telling me what programming I can order, and watch. This provision was never stated by CenturyLink or Directv when inquiring about the offer.
Well I took the offer, and here's the kicker. From the Directv Letter of Confirmation:
.Please note that by combining your bill with CenturyLink, certain adult content will no longer be available for purchasing or viewing
Mind you, I don't need or require "adult programming", and have not purchased it, or intend to, in the future. But I object to CenturyLink telling me what programming I can order, and watch. This provision was never stated by CenturyLink or Directv when inquiring about the offer.
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I called CenturyLink, and they stated it was "corporate policy" to not have this (adult programming) on their letterhead. Joint billing is only available, no separate billing.
They aren't telling you what you can order, watch, do, or anything else. If you want to do any of that you can do so by having everything billed separately. You'll pay a higher price for it but that's the solution. As long as you go through them you are subject to their rules and regulations. It's no different than when I lived at a college. I was married, had a child, and paying rent on their apartment. And as long as I Iived there I could not have any pay tv service. It had to be the crappy 20 or so channels they piped in. That's life. No one is infringing upon your right to do anything. You can always do something else if you don't like the rules."ronsanjim" said:If you call CenturyLink or Directv, they perhaps have asked what satellite or local phone service you have in an attempt to have you combine your billing between those 2 companies. If you agree, CenturyLink will knock $5.00 off your monthly bill.
Well I took the offer, and here's the kicker. From the Directv Letter of Confirmation:
.
Mind you, I don't need or require "adult programming", and have not purchased it, or intend to, in the future. But I object to CenturyLink telling me what programming I can order, and watch. This provision was never stated by CenturyLink or Directv when inquiring about the offer.
You can't call Centurylink and tell them you want Internet and phone and call Directv and tell them you want their service?"ronsanjim" said:I called CenturyLink, and they stated it was "corporate policy" to not have this (adult programming) on their letterhead. Joint billing is only available, no separate billing.
FFC law says you have right to your own dish.zimm7778 said:They aren't telling you what you can order, watch, do, or anything else. If you want to do any of that you can do so by having everything billed separately. You'll pay a higher price for it but that's the solution. As long as you go through them you are subject to their rules and regulations. It's no different than when I lived at a college. I was married, had a child, and paying rent on their apartment. And as long as I Iived there I could not have any pay tv service. It had to be the crappy 20 or so channels they piped in. That's life. No one is infringing upon your right to do anything. You can always do something else if you don't like the rules.
Yes but at a university you have to abide by their rules. You agree to that. I couldn't call Brighthouse and have them installed either."JoeTheDragon" said:FFC law says you have right to your own dish.
Yeah AT&T also was offering me the same discount if I were to bundle my AT&T U-Verse DSL with my Directv bill.
The CSR told me though I might lose any of the current promo discounts I currently have and would not be eligable for any future discounts our credits with Directv and that the bill I would paying would be going to AT&T and not Directv.
So yeah I declined the $5 off promotion for bundling my internet & Directv bill.It was just way to much risk to lose other discounts I currently have with Directv.
The CSR told me though I might lose any of the current promo discounts I currently have and would not be eligable for any future discounts our credits with Directv and that the bill I would paying would be going to AT&T and not Directv.
So yeah I declined the $5 off promotion for bundling my internet & Directv bill.It was just way to much risk to lose other discounts I currently have with Directv.
I'm just asking for a friend who is interested!ronsanjim said:Mind you, I don't need or require "adult programming", and have not purchased it, or intend to, in the future.
LOL!"inf0z" said:I'm just asking for a friend who is interested!
Hmmm, I wonder what an angry complaint call to a CSR would sound like.:eek2:
Uh, this is not the same. This is them censoring the product they are selling. They are selling directv and choosing to block programming based upon censorship. Not on rights or access but purely on censorship. If they have their own system and choose to not out adult programming on, that is fine. But blocking existing content because of their moral choices is wrong."zimm7778" said:They aren't telling you what you can order, watch, do, or anything else. If you want to do any of that you can do so by having everything billed separately. You'll pay a higher price for it but that's the solution. As long as you go through them you are subject to their rules and regulations. It's no different than when I lived at a college. I was married, had a child, and paying rent on their apartment. And as long as I Iived there I could not have any pay tv service. It had to be the crappy 20 or so channels they piped in. That's life. No one is infringing upon your right to do anything. You can always do something else if you don't like the rules.
I'd ***** to directv because their partner is blocking their content.
You are using them to get a discount are you not? Are you required to do so? If not you play by their rules or go another way."tonyd79" said:Uh, this is not the same. This is them censoring the product they are selling. They are selling directv and choosing to block programming based upon censorship. Not on rights or access but purely on censorship. If they have their own system and choose to not out adult programming on, that is fine. But blocking existing content because of their moral choices is wrong.
I'd ***** to directv because their partner is blocking their content.
Crap. They are selling directv. Sell directv. Where does it end? They decide to block individual programs? You buy Coke at the grocery store but since they are health aware, they suck out the sugar."zimm7778" said:You are using them to get a discount are you not? Are you required to do so? If not you play by their rules or go another way.
They are CENSORING a product. Not selling their own. Choosing for a customer what they get of an already defined product.
That is false advertising and fraud beyond reprehensible.
Don't give me the "you take the discount" crap. The discount isn't because they cut out programming. It is sold as a bundle. They are lying and deciding what is moral for you.
And directv should be made aware so they don't do business with liars and fake moralists.
You can call it whatever you want. Fact is you are still wrong. The aforementioned college I lived at, they piped in channels from Directv. But I didn't get anywhere near all of them (only got 20 or so as a matter of fact), couldn't order more, and couldn't get ppv or out of market sports. Apartments offer cable many times and quite often it is a selected set of channels from a satellite provider, same for other universities. Are they censoring you? Are they "fake moralist"? No. You chose to go there or live there and thus you play by their rules. Same here, actually no it isn't. It's much simpler. Don't like the so-called censoring. Call and have them billed separately."tonyd79" said:Crap. They are selling directv. Sell directv. Where does it end? They decide to block individual programs? You buy Coke at the grocery store but since they are health aware, they suck out the sugar.
They are CENSORING a product. Not selling their own. Choosing for a customer what they get of an already defined product.
That is false advertising and fraud beyond reprehensible.
Don't give me the "you take the discount" crap. The discount isn't because they cut out programming. It is sold as a bundle. They are lying and deciding what is moral for you.
And directv should be made aware so they don't do business with liars and fake moralists.
No. You are wrong. They are fake moralists. They are censoring a product."zimm7778" said:You can call it whatever you want. Fact is you are still wrong. The aforementioned college I lived at, they piped in channels from Directv. But I didn't get anywhere near all of them (only got 20 or so as a matter of fact), couldn't order more, and couldn't get ppv or out of market sports. Apartments offer cable many times and quite often it is a selected set of channels from a satellite provider, same for other universities. Are they censoring you? Are they "fake moralist"? No. You chose to go there or live there and thus you play by their rules. Same here, actually no it isn't. It's much simpler. Don't like the so-called censoring. Call and have them billed separately.
Your weak example was probably a technical restriction as they would need a tuner for each channel to pipe it in. If they gave you a full directv box and blocked channels for arbitrary reasons, they, too, would be abhorrent.
This is not limiting because thy only give you 100 channels. They are selling a product and crippling it on self admitted moral grounds. All the time selling "directv". They aren't selling some directv. They are selling directv.
They are lying and making a moral judgement for their customers without notifying them up front.
Your examples are technical or financial ones. Not the same at all.
Too bad you don't get it.
The OP is right to call them on it.
No too bad you don't get it since it isn't technical. I asked about it when I was at that university. And it wasnt financial since we were paying for it. You also of course skate by the fact that at these places I could not get my own dish because again I agreed to their policy by choosing to live there. This is much simpler. Have it billed separately and be done with it. Or if it's that big an issue take them to court over it and have a judge tell you what I'm telling you."tonyd79" said:No. You are wrong. They are fake moralists. They are censoring a product.
Your weak example was probably a technical restriction as they would need a tuner for each channel to pipe it in. If they gave you a full directv box and blocked channels for arbitrary reasons, they, too, would be abhorrent.
This is not limiting because thy only give you 100 channels. They are selling a product and crippling it on self admitted moral grounds. All the time selling "directv". They aren't selling some directv. They are selling directv.
They are lying and making a moral judgement for their customers without notifying them up front.
Your examples are technical or financial ones. Not the same at all.
Too bad you don't get it.
The OP is right to call them on it.
Use the internet...it's free...errr so I hear
Oh yes. Anything that is legal is just fine. Get beyond legality. They are being ****head moralists while kying to potential customers. But that is just fine with you. All the while hiding what they are really selling. (hmm. Judge would side with me on that point.)"zimm7778" said:No too bad you don't get it since it isn't technical. I asked about it when I was at that university. And it wasnt financial since we were paying for it. You also of course skate by the fact that at these places I could not get my own dish because again I agreed to their policy by choosing to live there. This is much simpler. Have it billed separately and be done with it. Or if it's that big an issue take them to court over it and have a judge tell you what I'm telling you.
And what did you ask? Dud you have a directv box or did you just tune your tv to the station? You used hotels as an example. They use a tuner for each channel and repoint it to an rf channel so the tvs can tune to up them. That is technical.
The dish is a red herring.
This us the point. The are selling directv but limiting for morality sake without advertising as such. They are not selling channels provided via directv like a hotel. They are selling dirctv. Not pieces. Not programming. But directv. That is misrepresentation. Period. End of story.
The OP was not told up front. But you slipped by that point.
I've never inquired to the reason but there are still laws that limit what content can be viewed in certain areas of the US. It's entirely possible that they just take blanket approach in these areas. It could also just be a conflict with how they have their systems setup to manage their content which you can do on the website. Regardless of the fact you can just choose to not have intigrated billing if that type of programming is something that you want to partake in.tonyd79 said:Oh yes. Anything that is legal is just fine. Get beyond legality. They are being ****head moralists while kying to potential customers. But that is just fine with you. All the while hiding what they are really selling. (hmm. Judge would side with me on that point.)
And what did you ask? Dud you have a directv box or did you just tune your tv to the station? You used hotels as an example. They use a tuner for each channel and repoint it to an rf channel so the tvs can tune to up them. That is technical.
The dish is a red herring.
This us the point. The are selling directv but limiting for morality sake without advertising as such. They are not selling channels provided via directv like a hotel. They are selling dirctv. Not pieces. Not programming. But directv. That is misrepresentation. Period. End of story.
The OP was not told up front. But you slipped by that point.
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