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Not everyone can get good home broadband .

I wish I could get tmobile or Verizon Wireless LTE/5G home broadband. I would kiss this POS docsis good bye in a heartbeat.

Some folks have outages all the ... time and we are told it's "maintenance " ...

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So true I have Spectrum & I think supposed to get 400mbps but have only got up to 300; however, I get outages & my kid is always complaining his game is lagging when the other 2 or 3 tvs are streaming & someone's phone is on WiFi. 3 of our phones have AT&T but only mine gets 4 or 5 bars so the other 2 use WiFi & the other one on T-mobile is hit or miss. I can only get Spectrum or crappy Frontier where I am & already had them.
 

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I often watch 2 or 3 games in the same time slot on Sundays, switching between games and fast-forwarding during breaks in the games. DVR'ing the games also means I don't have to miss anything when games overlap. That's why I'm hoping DirecTV will make a deal with the winning bidder to continue carrying the games.
That is true. I flip back and forth, sometimes dvr as well. Wonder how that will work with streaming. Never streamed a game before.
 

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How many of those 250+ channels are you actually watching? The way DTV sets up their tiers you have to go to Ultimate to get it all. Once they add on all of the fees for DVR, Advanced Receiver, Regional Sports, etc you are looking at $175/month for one TV. Have more TVs? Start racking up the additional charges. And god forbid if you have been a long time subscriber with a 5 or 6 TVs and you need to upgrade your old HR21-100s. Have an extra $2k laying around to pay for equipment that you lease? Oh, and after that they want to have you pay an additional $9/month to protect the equipment that you don't own and you pay to lease just in case it fails. SMH Tack on a couple premium channels at you're over $200 and locked into a 2 year contract. Sure, you can get DTV for $100/month, but you won't be getting very much. Sure, they call it 160+ channels, but geez 1/2 of them are music channels and 1/4 of them are spanish.

I challenge you. Write down every show you've watched this year and which service it was on. How many unique services did you get? Was is 300? 200? 100? 50? I'll bet it is less than 25. It's that set that you actually watch that you should be paying for, not the other 225+.

YouTubeTV gives you 85+ channels for $65
Hulu Live TV gives you 75+ for $70

Something missing? Pay for it's stream separately for $4-$8/month. Premiums cost the same or less than DTV, especially if you bundle.

75% of what I watch is on Hulu, Netflix, and Broadcast for locals, so I have no need for YouTubeTV or Hulu Live. The rest is on Prime, Showtime, and HBOMax which costs me a whopping $37/month (Yeah, throwing in the $12/month for Amazon Prime through I'd pay for Prime if their streaming service didn't exist). Netflix is free as I have TMobile service and Hulu is $13 (no ad plan). $50/month and there isn't a show or service I want to watch that isn't available. Heck, if you want to do the numbers game, I receive 130+ channels on my antenna and have a Amazon Replay DVR to hoover it all up and I don't have to pay an additional $10/month for the privilege.



Are you trying to tell me that you don't pay for internet because you have DTV? You have internet and pay for it anyway, so it is a sunk cost either way. Why not actually get more value out of the service you are already paying for? But I'll play. I have 600mbps service for $45 all-in with taxes. Add that to my streaming costs and we're at $95/month plus about $5 in taxes on the streaming services. $100/month and I want for nothing. What is your bill total with DTV and Internet service?

On top of that, I don't pay for my premiums all year. When a series I like is over and nothing much else is on, I just cancel with a couple clicks instead of fighting with a CSR for 30 minutes on the phone and then resubscribe, generally with a "come back for 1/2 price for 3 months" when I do. I had Starz for $0.99/month for 18 months because every time I went to cancel after the 3 months for $0.99 they extended the offer to get me to stay. Took my wife that long to plow through the 77 seasons of Outlander and Godz. I cancelled and now I get an e-mail every week asking me to come back for $0.99 and I will once there is something I want to watch. Have a single show, say Better Call Saul on AMC, pay for the service for a couple months at $9 or buy the whole season on Amazon for $9.99 and watch it whenever you want. Want to check out Ted Lasso, well you can't get it on DTV, so you'll pay $5/month for AppleTV+ and need to buy a box to stream it on since DTV won't allow the service on their box.



Yup, they just don't have to pay $250/month to watch 10% of the services they pay for.

TL;DR Version: Streaming allows you to watch anything you want and pay for it al a carte for a lot less. The only thing you couldn't get on streaming was NST, but soon you will.
I need to follow you once I'm ready to cancel. Lol. I pay $100 for Choice with a Genie & 2 HD receivers cause I needed more storage. I get a $10 discount as long as I don't upgrade my equipment. I get free HBO cause of AT&T but they took the code off my account so I have to call every month & have a 20+ minute call to get it credited. And yes, it included a AT&T discount built in along with another one just to get it to $100. Only 2 of us really watch cause 1 kid doesn't watch TV & the other streams. And we don't watch most of the channels but there are a couple hubby watches where I can't drop to lower package.

I pay Spectrum $100 a month for 400mbps and for phone. I have Hulu/Disney+ for $20 and Apple for $5 and Starz for $3 a month for 6 months. Prime & Apple I get on my TV and I think my Firestick has them too.

Think when I leave I will do YouTube for the local channels & NFL Network & MLB Network, and Discovery+ for things hubby watches.
 

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Exactly, I do the same. I rarely watch NFL Network for example, but sometimes they show an old game I would rewatch or some other special. It's nice to have that option and know that it's not costing me more because it's in my bundle (obviously, we choose our bundles based on what has the channels we watch often). And I've been saying for awhile that when you go strictly streaming you eventually are going to wind up paying the same. Eventually the price will continue to rise as more and more content has to be delivered. We are seeing it more and more. AND, you are losing a lot of the best DVR features, including my favorite, the ability to skip ads. Now I have to PAY for the privilege of watching ads, or pay a premium to get rid of them (and even THEN sometimes they force it on us.) Netflix is going to an ad based scheme, because they want to offer a cheaper alternative. I will bet, withing 10 years or less,those non ad based plans go away. Advertising dollars are too easy for services to give up. AND, we won't have the option to skip them either.
That's what I'm wondering. Am I keeping it for convenience or is it really going to cost about the same? And I watch Paramount+ & Discovery+ with ads and can't stand them. I hate when some local shows I stream when I missed them I can't fast forward ads. I'm spoiled from my dvr & no ad Hulu.

But if I save $30 a month that can be put towards Sunday Ticket might be worth it.
 

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Yew I'm definitely NOT a fan of all this a la cart streaming crap

We pay enough for TV all these shows should be included

Nfl for example the prime games should be included in the new NFL ST , we shouldn't have to pay for NFL ST, and then Amazon prime for TNF

Thats one thing I hate about MLB now , not only do u need MLB EI/.TV, but u need apple crap for Friday nights , peacock for Sunday 12 noon games and yankees fans would need Amazon prime as well ... the premium sports package should include ALL games . We are paying a premium for the season, should include all games !

I know NFL is slightly different since it deals with local channels but still TNF should be included .

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Yeah my husband was shocked he now needed Peacock to see the Sunday which is another fee. He decided against it.
 

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This is the closest thing I have to it.
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Oh yeah, I remember that too. Thanks for the reminder
Thanks. I eventually got them to promise me the $20 a month credit promised to me, but DTV would NOT admit it was because they lost Sunday Ticket. I'll believe the credit when I actually see it on my bill. The whole ordeal left me wondering if it was a screw up, or, if they never intended to come through with it, using it as something deliberate to keep subscribers hanging on for a couple more months until NFL starts up again.
You can check your account online under billing there is a spot somewhere that says "recent activity." This is where they put all charges and credits & is immediate. Sometimes they will send you a confirmation email as well.
 
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