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The official subscriber numbers for DIRECTV DBS haven't been shared in quite a while (since the regrouping of DIRECTV as a "non-core asset"). It is unclear where the numbers that Statista uses came from and whether or not they included DIRECTV Stream (it seems likely that they do). In Q4 2021, DIRECTV was estimated to be bleeding between 400,000 and 600,000 customers per quarter so it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that the number, if accurate, is now closer to 13.5 million today (again, this probably includes DIRECTV Stream that appears to be taking an increasing bite out the DBS subscriber base).I'm talking specifically about those who would pay for NFLST only if they were able to get it through DIRECTV DBS service.
The numbers at Statista combine the Satellite Service, Streaming and the stubborn customers that will not leave Uverse, which is rumored to be 2-3 million ( it had as many as 6 million video subs at one time).

So if stream has 2 million ( which is a bad number considering YTTV has 5 million, Hulu Live has 4 million and neither has the RSNs), uverse has 2 million, that leave DirecTV Sat Service with 10 million, which sounds correct if subs are leaving 400-600,000 a quarter, which was reported the first two quarters of 2021, a million combined left.

Now the question is, how many customers can the Satellite part of DirecTV lose before it is no longer profitable.

I give it 5 years at the most, 10 if there is a merger ( by then the Satellites themselves will be dying).

Also, I am not so sure a merger is in the cards, Dish is more focused on their 5G network thing, does not have much cash on hand, 3 billion ( a 29.26% decline year-over-year.) vs liabilities over 33 billion (which is a 32.09% increase year-over-year).

What bank is going to loan Dish money towards this merger ( at least enough to cover TPG’s share), specially towards a company that is slowly dying, Dish would have to put up a lot of capital to make the banks happy, which it does not have right now.

Then we have all the costs after a merger.

 

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To be fair, which I'm trying to be. Is that 10M just HBOMax or does that include linear HBO as well?
Here you go-

The 'Game of Thrones' prequel drew nearly 10 million viewers across all platforms for its series debut.


I will be watching it also, but waiting until it is done so I can binge.
 

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On the Roku, the picture was crystal clear, HDR 4k. It looked really awesome.
Game was not in 4K/HDR, just real 1080P.

But it did look great, better then the fake 4K Fox puts out.

But will Amazon stream the games in 4K, you ask?

I asked an Amazon spokeswoman today and here’s her response:

“Not this season, it will be available in 1080p.”


 

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I tried watching it on my Sony TV and it would appear that Amazon was swamped. I came back later and Amazon had trouble loading its interface.

I suppose it is good that they find this stuff out now.
I left the app and came back to it a few times, never had a issue, using a Roku Ultra.

I have two Sony TVs, a A90J and a Z9K, I have always found that apps work a lot better on the Roku then with Google/Android TV, the only time I had issues was always with the apps on the Sony ( lock ups, just stoping, choppy video, losing sound ).

Also have a Nvidia Shield that I use on my projector in the outdoor theater, so of course it runs Android, never a issue.

I have read that Sony does not give the apps enough processing, memory and storage, I gave up and just use the Roku.
 

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I just got off the phone with DIRECTV to make a programming update to my account. After helping me with what I wanted updated which was to cancel my NBA League Pass subscription, I asked the representative about NFL Sunday Ticket after 2022. I asked him will DIRECTV still have NFL Sunday Ticket after this upcoming season (2022) because I am hearing a lot that DIRECTV is going to lose NFL Sunday Ticket after this year. He said “that is not true”
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There are a couple articles out there where DIRECTV is looking to get a co-exclusive agreement with whomever gets the next Sunday Ticket deal. Traditional Linear Television is not going away anytime soon. And Go Ahead and ask. I can provide links if needed.
Yep, what DirecTV wants.

Not what Apple/Amazon wants.

Remember, DirecTV just made a deal with Amazon regarding Buslnesses to have TNF, what was not included, Residential, because Amazon wants it as a exclusive.
 

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Some might subscribe thinking it would be good but when the buffering starts whoops. When I first tried watching MLBTV that’s how it was for me. I don’t watch MLBTV on my phone because I have slow internet. I rely on MLB Extra Innings. And there’s also a delay. Atleast here there is compared to the Extra Innings on DIRECTV. I see action almost 30-45 seconds sooner on tv than I do on the app and sometimes it might be over a minute difference . That’s a pretty long gap. I don’t like streaming. It’s no good here. For others It’s probably fine. Not here.
And again you are in the minority as far as Broadband goes, yet the way you post, you try to make it sound like everyone has these problems.

According to the last census, 85% have fast enough broadband, a few years ago it used to be 80%, so things are getting better.

I live in a rural area of Florida, I moved here in 2020, found out they did not have fast service from Charter until 2018, 2 years before I moved here, all they had was Century Link’s 3 down/1 up speed.

Now, up to gigabit ( which I have), as much as I love this house, I would never of bought it if it did not have great broadband.

So things could get better for you, yet if you live in a area that you do not believe will ever get broadband, better put Star Link on reserve because it is your only hope, with DirecTV losing 1.6 million subs a year ( 400,000 per quarter estimate), they are 5-7 years from being unprofitable and shut down, what will you do then without broadband.
 

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He has already stated he will stare at a blank wall before he streams anything.
I guess I do not understand that mentally, we now get content we want to watch at a click of a button, at a much better quality then Traditional Providers.

If only I had these options when I was a latch key kid when I was 10, 45 years ago.

Also for me, the type of content I want to watch, not just the stuff being forced on the Traditional Broadcasters, if I want to watch a Disney/Marvel show in 4K, go to Disney+, if I want to watch a CBS show like FBI, go to Paramount+ and it is in real 1080P/Dolby Digital+, so much better then Traditional Providers.
 

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DIRECTV isn’t going anywhere as far as I know. It’s going to be around for a long time. I would like to know why you think DIRECTV would be "gone"? They still serve well over 13 Million Customers.
No, out of the 13-14 million reported, 1.5 million are DirecTV Stream subs and 2-3 million are uverse subscribers that are hanging on, a lot in multi-dwellings.
 

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In that article it does state that “DIRECTV could still carry NFL Sunday Ticket for bars & restaurants and indeed their entire satellite audience”
No it does not, it says could, not will and that article was written basically from DirecTV’s point of view, what DirecTV wants to do, not what Apple/Amazon wants to do.

While I think that DirecTV will have it for Bars, Casinos, Restaurants and other Businesses, just because they are just not ready because of broadband issues, I really doubt it would extend to residential.

For example, the recent Amazon deal with TNF, it includes Commercial Establishments but not residential, what about those same rural folks that do not have fast broadband.

That article makes a point about if DirecTV is allowed to keep selling, it will be a help regarding the financial aspects of the deal, Apple and Amazon do not need any help, Amazon has over $120 billion in cash, Apple over $200 billion, they will be fine.

Apple/Amazon want to be the future of how we watch Television Programming, why would they want to help extend DirecTV’s life.

Last, this is from the link-

Despite the financial and technical logic of such a partnership, CNBC says it’s unclear if the three bidding companies are interested.

Again, what DirecTV wants to do, not what Apple/Amazon wants to do.
 

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That’s your opinion. Linear Television is not going away anytime soon. Not everyone is going to have Apple or Amazon 😆 not even 75 years from now 😆 "You doubt they would extend it to residential customers" That’s your MF’in opinion. That’s NOT what that article says. This guy is a joker. 🤭🤡
I guess then I am a Joker with Gigabit Broadband and I live in a rural area.

Traditional Providers have lost about 30 million subs and that is now increasing by 2 million more gone every quarter.

So, use your vast insight on how to stem those losses, so they can start gaining subscribers, because in about 5 years things will be drastically different.

Even if the pace of losses do not increase ( and they will), at 2 million losses per quarter, that is 8 million a year, 40 million gone in 5 year, multiple providers will of dropped TV service because it has become unprofitable, the total Live TV subscriber’s number is 68 million, after 5 years, makes it 28 million.

The other problem for Traditional Providers is the older subs are dying off and younger customers are ignoring Live TV Providers, so no one to replace the older subs.

Example, my kids are 32 and 27, both have their own home, both can easily afford Live TV, both have 85” TVs, guess what they do not have, a Traditional Service, both are happy with Netflix and the likes.
 

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Twitter is already buzzing with people writing in saying they don’t have Prime, don’t stream, they have cable and not streaming. The complaints have already started and the first game hasn’t even been played yet. Go take a look for yourself. Some are saying they won’t watch the NFL at all now.
Number of Household in the United States that have Amazon Prime-76 million

Number of Household in the United States that have a Live TV Service-68 Million

Then this-
Fewer than half of all U.S. households will have a cable TV subscription by 2023, according to a new study. The study, by Insider Intelligence, expects the total number of pay TV households to drop to 65.1 million, a 4.8% decrease from 2022. That is 49.5% of all U.S. households.

 

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i do paid for Prime.. consequently i shouldn't see any commercials.. ( fat chance ) and have a HD quality picture.. I paid my good money.. YOU HAVE IT.. give me what I paid for.. and don't say well its this or that .. and don't show that you are drinking the Kool aide.. by justifying the poor quality.. I PAID YOU.. CASH.. give me the quality that i expect.. and I thought that DIRECTV was supposed to show the Thursday night games.. that was the agreement.. Where was my game on DIRECTV.. ? again I am paying for both.. cash.. my bills with you are paid.. give me what you say that you will. its like paying for a 15 gallons of gas and only getting 12.. I paid for all of it..
The deal that DirecTV has is fot Bars, Restaurants, Casinos, etc.

Not for Residential.
 

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If they had given less freebies, the losses perhaps would have been higher. I'd imagine they even saved quite a few subscriptions that would have otherwise dropped DIRECTV that typically wouldn't have subbed to NFLST.
You mean the losses would of been worse then 10-11 million lost if they did not give away ST.

That means they will get smacked hard next year with losses since they have been giving it away this season.

Nothing to offer those folks wanting to leave, except offering to lower the bill, which creates other issues.
 

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Boo hoo. And how many years have people been upset that they don't have Sat and they can't watch the games? I guess you wouldn't know since you are fortunate to have DirecTV. Fact of life, people are going to complain about something that inconveniences them. You can't make EVERYBODY happy.
I already explained to him that Prime Subscribers out number those who pay for Live TV by 10 million more, he choose to ignore that logic.
 

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I have great internet in my house and my wifi is amazing but I believe a big part of that is my mesh router. I have an ORBI but there are other good one as well if you have speeds above 300mb down and couldn't stream last nights game virtually flawlessly I think you should look into mesh routers.
I have wired Netgear access points ( bought 7) because my house is 4500 sq. feet, had a lot of dead zones until I put them in, each one was only $89 at Amazon and well worth it, no matter what room I am in, at least 600 down, 30 up speed.

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