[harsh]

If it’s so simple as you say, then why hasn’t any deal been agreed upon or even announced? The 2023 NFL season is officially less than a year away now.

What was simple was that DIRECTV was openly not interested in continuing their contract with the NFL. If you're upset about DIRECTV no longer offering NFLST after 2022, take it up with DIRECTV.

That a deal for 2023 and later hasn't been announced is between the NFL and those who are bidding (Apple, Amazon, et al?) for the exclusive and has little to nothing to do with DIRECTV

 

[Rob37]

CNBC: DIRECTV Could Still Carry Sunday Ticket After 2022 - The TV Answer Man!

Amazon, Apple and Disney (for ESPN+) have all made bids for the next NFL Sunday Ticket contract, according to a new report from CNBC. However, it appears that a league decision is not imminent due to complications over the structure of the deal. The report does not say if one bidder is more...

tvanswerman.com

In that article it does state that “DIRECTV could still carry NFL Sunday Ticket for bars & restaurants and indeed their entire satellite audience”

 

[glrush]

If it’s so simple as you say, then why hasn’t any deal been agreed upon or even announced? The 2023 NFL season is officially less than a year away now. You can say DIRECTV made a business decision all you want but according to some they still may try to reach out to the next company whoever gets it to have a co-exclusive agreement. And as I stated in earlier posts, there are a few articles that discuss it. One is from the tv answer man. And a few other articles also discuss it and I can provide article links if needed.

The deal may be done and simply not announced. We are all spitballing.

And, you are correct that the contract may include DirecTV; we simply don't know. But, as many have said, if you pay for an exclusive, you want it to be exclusive. Why would the steamers give that up, especially on the residential side? On the commercial side, it makes more sense.


TNF used to be on Fox/NFLN and now it's streamed on Amazon. If you are in the local market, you get the game on local TV. You still get the home team game; that's all the NFL is obligated to show.

I hope it stays on DirecTV for MY convenience. But, they really don't care about me, or you. They want the bag.

 

[b4pjoe]

If it’s so simple as you say, then why hasn’t any deal been agreed upon or even announced? The 2023 NFL season is officially less than a year away now. You can say DIRECTV made a business decision all you want but according to some they still may try to reach out to the next company whoever gets it to have a co-exclusive agreement. And as I stated in earlier posts, there are a few articles that discuss it. One is from the tv answer man. And a few other articles also discuss it and I can provide article links if needed.

Why would they announce it now? My guess is after the Super Bowl.

 

[Bender The Lab]

CNBC: DIRECTV Could Still Carry Sunday Ticket After 2022 - The TV Answer Man!

Amazon, Apple and Disney (for ESPN+) have all made bids for the next NFL Sunday Ticket contract, according to a new report from CNBC. However, it appears that a league decision is not imminent due to complications over the structure of the deal. The report does not say if one bidder is more...

tvanswerman.com

In that article it does state that “DIRECTV could still carry NFL Sunday Ticket for bars & restaurants and indeed their entire satellite audience”

No it does not, it says could, not will and that article was written basically from DirecTV’s point of view, what DirecTV wants to do, not what Apple/Amazon wants to do.

While I think that DirecTV will have it for Bars, Casinos, Restaurants and other Businesses, just because they are just not ready because of broadband issues, I really doubt it would extend to residential.

For example, the recent Amazon deal with TNF, it includes Commercial Establishments but not residential, what about those same rural folks that do not have fast broadband.

That article makes a point about if DirecTV is allowed to keep selling, it will be a help regarding the financial aspects of the deal, Apple and Amazon do not need any help, Amazon has over $120 billion in cash, Apple over $200 billion, they will be fine.

Apple/Amazon want to be the future of how we watch Television Programming, why would they want to help extend DirecTV’s life.

Last, this is from the link-

Despite the financial and technical logic of such a partnership, CNBC says it’s unclear if the three bidding companies are interested.

Again, what DirecTV wants to do, not what Apple/Amazon wants to do.

 

[Rob37]

No it does not, it says could, not will and that article was written basically from DirecTV’s point of view, what DirecTV wants to do, not what Apple/Amazon wants to do.

While I think that DirecTV will have it for Bars, Casinos, Restaurants and other Businesses, just because they are just not ready because of broadband issues, I really doubt it would extend to residential.

For example, the recent Amazon deal with TNF, it includes Commercial Establishments but not residential, what about those same rural folks that do not have fast broadband.

That article makes a point about if DirecTV is allowed to keep selling, it will be a help regarding the financial aspects of the deal, Apple and Amazon do not need any help, Amazon has over $120 billion in cash, Apple over $200 billion, they will be fine.

Apple/Amazon want to be the future of how we watch Television Programming, why would they want to help extend DirecTV’s life.

Last, this is from the link-

Despite the financial and technical logic of such a partnership, CNBC says it’s unclear if the three bidding companies are interested.

Again, what DirecTV wants to do, not what Apple/Amazon wants to do.

That’s your opinion. Linear Television is not going away anytime soon. Not everyone is going to have Apple or Amazon 😆 not even 75 years from now 😆 "You doubt they would extend it to residential customers" That’s your MF’in opinion. That’s NOT what that article says. This guy is a joker. 🤭🤡

 

[James Long]

CNBC: DIRECTV Could Still Carry Sunday Ticket After 2022 - The TV Answer Man!

Amazon, Apple and Disney (for ESPN+) have all made bids for the next NFL Sunday Ticket contract, according to a new report from CNBC. However, it appears that a league decision is not imminent due to complications over the structure of the deal. The report does not say if one bidder is more...

tvanswerman.com

In that article it does state that “DIRECTV could still carry NFL Sunday Ticket for bars & restaurants and indeed their entire satellite audience”

Speculation from June that pushes a pro DirecTV position. I believe there is a possibility for commercial accounts due to DirecTV for Business' history of providing streaming feeds to businesses via Satellite (ESPN+ and Amazon TNF to name two). Residential satellite carriage of content a streamer bought as an exclusive? No. Don't expect that. NFL ST is going Bye Bye on DIRECTV and only a bid of billions of dollars that DIRECTV will change that outcome.

We have already had exhaustive discussions about the right time to announce next year's exclusive. My educated guess is just after the last game of the regular season when DIRECTV ceases carrying NFL ST. But the announcement could be delayed in to January. For reasons please re-read this thread.

 

[Bender The Lab]

That’s your opinion. Linear Television is not going away anytime soon. Not everyone is going to have Apple or Amazon 😆 not even 75 years from now 😆 "You doubt they would extend it to residential customers" That’s your MF’in opinion. That’s NOT what that article says. This guy is a joker. 🤭🤡

I guess then I am a Joker with Gigabit Broadband and I live in a rural area.

Traditional Providers have lost about 30 million subs and that is now increasing by 2 million more gone every quarter.

So, use your vast insight on how to stem those losses, so they can start gaining subscribers, because in about 5 years things will be drastically different.

Even if the pace of losses do not increase ( and they will), at 2 million losses per quarter, that is 8 million a year, 40 million gone in 5 year, multiple providers will of dropped TV service because it has become unprofitable, the total Live TV subscriber’s number is 68 million, after 5 years, makes it 28 million.

The other problem for Traditional Providers is the older subs are dying off and younger customers are ignoring Live TV Providers, so no one to replace the older subs.

Example, my kids are 32 and 27, both have their own home, both can easily afford Live TV, both have 85” TVs, guess what they do not have, a Traditional Service, both are happy with Netflix and the likes.

 

[Steveknj]

Yeah it matters I actually hope there is an agreement where people can stream NFL Sunday Ticket but I also hope there is a co-agreement where NFL Sunday Ticket can stay with DIRECTV for residential customers who want to keep it. I am hoping it is opened up to maximize distribution. Not take it away from people who have had it nearly 3 decades! Make sense?

But again, if DirecTV isn't involved, it doesn't matter to you who else gets it, does it? Do the NFL or DirecTV OWE it to you because you've been watching ST with them for 3 decades? You make it sound like they do.

 

[Steveknj]

What was simple was that DIRECTV was openly not interested in continuing their contract with the NFL. If you're upset about DIRECTV no longer offering NFLST after 2022, take it up with DIRECTV.

That a deal for 2023 and later hasn't been announced is between the NFL and those who are bidding (Apple, Amazon, et al?) for the exclusive and has little to nothing to do with DIRECTV

It's also possible that each of those entities keeps coming up with more and more money and are trying to outbid each other. Or, that the deal has been struck and they don't want to announce it now so that there won't be all kinds of confusion on who has ST and who doesn't.

 

[Steveknj]

CNBC: DIRECTV Could Still Carry Sunday Ticket After 2022 - The TV Answer Man!

Amazon, Apple and Disney (for ESPN+) have all made bids for the next NFL Sunday Ticket contract, according to a new report from CNBC. However, it appears that a league decision is not imminent due to complications over the structure of the deal. The report does not say if one bidder is more...

tvanswerman.com

In that article it does state that “DIRECTV could still carry NFL Sunday Ticket for bars & restaurants and indeed their entire satellite audience”

The article you posted (which is pure speculation anyway) is from June. We've had this discussion already. Maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't, who know?

 

[Steveknj]

That’s your opinion. Linear Television is not going away anytime soon. Not everyone is going to have Apple or Amazon 😆 not even 75 years from now 😆 "You doubt they would extend it to residential customers" That’s your MF’in opinion. That’s NOT what that article says. This guy is a joker. 🤭🤡

You must be a time traveler to know that! They said the same thing about radio 75 years ago. OK, I'll give you that radio is still around. Does it have the same relevance it had before the advent of TV? Nope. So you might be right, linear TV will be around in 75 years. But DEFINITELY not how it looks today. Heck, it doesn't even look like it did 20 years ago. Heck, I'm not even convinced THE INTERNET will look like it does now and there's probably a better than 50/50 chance the way we consume information won't even look like it does today.

 

[JoeTheDragon]

Speculation from June that pushes a pro DirecTV position. I believe there is a possibility for commercial accounts due to DirecTV for Business' history of providing streaming feeds to businesses via Satellite (ESPN+ and Amazon TNF to name two). Residential satellite carriage of content a streamer bought as an exclusive? No. Don't expect that. NFL ST is going Bye Bye on DIRECTV and only a bid of billions of dollars that DIRECTV will change that outcome.

We have already had exhaustive discussions about the right time to announce next year's exclusive. My educated guess is just after the last game of the regular season when DIRECTV ceases carrying NFL ST. But the announcement could be delayed in to January. For reasons please re-read this thread.

all it takes is 1-2 weeks of an streaming only meltdown for the NFL to offer it to directv / cable systems.

 

[Rob37]

Twitter is already buzzing with people writing in saying they don’t have Prime, don’t stream, they have cable and not streaming. The complaints have already started and the first game hasn’t even been played yet. Go take a look for yourself. Some are saying they won’t watch the NFL at all now.

 

[b4pjoe]

all it takes is 1-2 weeks of an streaming only meltdown for the NFL to offer it to directv / cable systems.

Once the NFL sells an exclusive deal they can’t come back and sell it to someone else because someone is complaining.

 

[b4pjoe]

Twitter is already buzzing all the people writing in saying they don’t have Prime, don’t stream, have cable and not streaming. The complaints have already started and the first game hasn’t even been played yet. Go take a look for yourself.

Simple solution for them. Pay for Prime. Have cable and don’t stream? Too bad.

 

[James Long]

Once the NFL sells an exclusive deal they can’t come back and sell it to someone else because someone is complaining.

Exactly. People also need to remember that the goal of the NFL is to get billions of dollars each year. Not make people happy. Most NFL viewers watch games on the broadcast networks... So the few million who will subscribe to NFL ST are not critical to make happy. Whomever gets the rights will get the obligation to pay regardless of the number of satisfied customers. Justblike DIRECTV.

 

[Rob37]

Exactly. People also need to remember that the goal of the NFL is to get billions of dollars each year. Not make people happy. Most NFL viewers watch games on the broadcast networks... So the few million who will subscribe to NFL ST are not critical to make happy. Whomever gets the rights will get the obligation to pay regardless of the number of satisfied customers. Justblike DIRECTV.

It will be interesting to see the numbers of people who would be willing to pay $300 to stream NFL Games. It would probably be the most expensive package so far.

 

[Bender The Lab]

It will be interesting to see the numbers of people who would be willing to pay $300 to stream NFL Games. It would probably be the most expensive package so far.

What is the difference people paying $300 to DirecTV versus paying Apple or Amazon?

 

[b4pjoe]

It will be interesting to see the numbers of people who would be willing to pay $300 to stream NFL Games. It would probably be the most expensive package so far.

DirecTV has been selling it for that price to a couple of million people out of a pool of 20 million people on the high end and about 10 million or so now. The new provider is going to have a pool of the entire population of the USA. They will surely sell more at that price than DirecTV ever could.