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Forgive me if I missed a previous post on this, but how many of you think that DTV should tweak their software to allow random screen locations for the caller ID message so that it is less likely to burn into a plasma tv. When a clean sky shot or a white screen is shown I can actually make out a few letters of the caller ID imprint. Obviously I can shut it off (and probably will), but I truly enjoy that feature. What do you guys think?
 

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johneli said:
Forgive me if I missed a previous post on this, but how many of you think that DTV should tweak their software to allow random screen locations for the caller ID message so that it is less likely to burn into a plasma tv. When a clean sky shot or a white screen is shown I can actually make out a few letters of the caller ID imprint. Obviously I can shut it off (and probably will), but I truly enjoy that feature. What do you guys think?
How many phone calls are you getting while your tv is on? I mean do you watch espn, fox news, cnn... when they have the ticker at the bottom that only goes away during a commercial? My called ID message is on for a max of 10 seconds... I don't see how this could cause burn in.
 

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I would worry more about the station logos burning into my plasmas than the CID box. If that box has burned into your screen then you should never hook up a xbox or PS. Be sure you are not just getting ghosting of the image into darker colors.
 

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Wow... That sucks. How old is your plasma tv?
It's a two year old 50" Pioneer Elite Series. I'm wondering if there's a DVD which only shows a bright white screen to get rid of the ghost images. Or anything else that might get rid of it!! Thanx guys!
 

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It's a two year old 50" Pioneer Elite Series. I'm wondering if there's a DVD which only shows a bright white screen to get rid of the ghost images. Or anything else that might get rid of it!! Thanx guys!
There's some calibration DVDs that have that capability, but with any video editing software is something that can be done in a few minutes. Just add a white color image with a 5-10 minute duration and then burn it in the highest quality setting.

At one point I remember someone on vcdhelp.com had posted a DVD that would fast cycle thru the primary colors to try to help stuck pixels.

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I guess someone decided to market something like this. http://www.pixelprotector.com/ But $40???
 

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Can't imagine burn in would occur on ANY new HDTV, which makes me wonder why they have a screen saver, but I have noticed the caller ID message doesn't come up consistently.

Anyone care to venture a guess as to why??
 

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HDinMA said:
Can't imagine burn in would occur on ANY new HDTV, which makes me wonder why they have a screen saver, but I have noticed the caller ID message doesn't come up consistently.

Anyone care to venture a guess as to why??
There are several threads discussing the curious nature of caller ID. My experience has been that my CID has always worked, from day one, "most" of the time:)
 

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Just how long does the caller-ID display stay on the screen if you don't dismiss it?

I like the feature, but if I'm watching a program and get a PRIVATE PRIVATE message I'll turn it off immediately. Sometimes I'll pause the program and answer the phone. But I never leave the message onscreen for more than a few seconds.
 

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davring said:
There are several threads discussing the curious nature of caller ID. My experience has been that my CID has always worked, from day one, "most" of the time:)
Mine has too, but I'm starting to see more and more posts about problems with CID.

Rich
 

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Just how long does the caller-ID display stay on the screen if you don't dismiss it?

I like the feature, but if I'm watching a program and get a PRIVATE PRIVATE message I'll turn it off immediately. Sometimes I'll pause the program and answer the phone. But I never leave the message onscreen for more than a few seconds.
I don't think it stays on much more than a minute. As a matter of fact, I just called my house and it stayed up for 30 seconds.
 

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HDinMA said:
Can't imagine burn in would occur on ANY new HDTV, which makes me wonder why they have a screen saver, but I have noticed the caller ID message doesn't come up consistently.

Anyone care to venture a guess as to why??
There is a great thread about CID here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=84943&highlight=cid. My CID works 100% of the time. Also - I have Verizon DSL for my ISP, and I have a filter at each of my HR21's.

As for burn in - all HDTV's can suffer burn in except for LCD's if any static image is left on for too long. LCD TV's are the only ones immune to that problem.

I can't understand why the OP has the issue with CID though. If his TV has a problem with that, then it is way to sensitive.

I wonder if his brightness is set way too high? Many TV's are shipped to the point of blooming because they look better that way in the showroom under the florescent lights. Sometimes a 'brighter' TV in the showroom looks better than the competition.

When you get your set home, you should have a pro calibrate it, or use one of those DVD's to help you do it yourself. You'll add years to the set, and it will look much better too!

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HDinMA said:
Can't imagine burn in would occur on ANY new HDTV, which makes me wonder why they have a screen saver, but I have noticed the caller ID message doesn't come up consistently.

Anyone care to venture a guess as to why??
I shake my head about that issue all the time. Most of the time the caller ID displays on the screen, but every once in awhile it inexplicably does not! I've tried to tie it to some incident, but to no avail. And yes, Caller ID has been a persistently frustrating feature.
 

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johneli said:
It's a two year old 50" Pioneer Elite Series. I'm wondering if there's a DVD which only shows a bright white screen to get rid of the ghost images. Or anything else that might get rid of it!! Thanx guys!
Pioneers usually come out of the box with the brightness level all the way up. I assume you adjusted it down to prevent images from burning into your display. My Pioneer elite is going on 4 years old and has no problems. Same with the Pioneers' elite and non-elites I setup at my parent's house. In any event, just tune to an HD channel with moving content like HD Theater. Good luck!
 

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Just how long does the caller-ID display stay on the screen if you don't dismiss it?

I like the feature, but if I'm watching a program and get a PRIVATE PRIVATE message I'll turn it off immediately. Sometimes I'll pause the program and answer the phone. But I never leave the message onscreen for more than a few seconds.
I get maybe 10 calls a day. Multiply that by the two years I've owned the set and that image has been in place on the screen (time after time) for (if it lasts only five seconds) for a total of ten hours! Even though it's not long-lived, appearing in the same spot for all those total hours leads me to believe it's possible and the image on my screen (when viewed agains a white ground) is definitely a portion of the caller id imprint.
 

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johneli said:
I get maybe 10 calls a day. Multiply that by the two years I've owned the set and that image has been in place on the screen (time after time) for (if it lasts only five seconds) for a total of ten hours! Even though it's not long-lived, appearing in the same spot for all those total hours leads me to believe it's possible and the image on my screen (when viewed agains a white ground) is definitely a portion of the caller id imprint.
Interesting, but I'll bet you've had your 'guide' on for more hours than that.

Have you ever had your TV calibrated or 'set up' by you or a pro. Have they/you set the correct color temp for your viewing area? Are the brightness/contrast settings too high? Sometimes you are so used to what you are looking at that you would not know if these settings are way off and potentially making your TV too sensitive to static images.
 

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Not to be an alarmist, but there may be something wrong with your set. I would keep a look out for other signs of burn-in. I have a Sony LCD, and while the earlier post about LCDs not suffering from burn-in is true, that is only for those that are operating properly. Even on my LCD I had bad burn-in, or more accurately severe image retention, until Sony replaced the entire light engine. It was OK for a year, and then failed in that manner.

Most plasmas dither the signal, or that is, they move it around on the screen a pixel or two every so often, which is supposed to prevent hard edges on burn-in. Is your burn-in definitely hard-edged, or is it somewhat blurry?

If you get a lot of calls, it may be hard to determine if it is true burn-in (which is permanent) or image retention (which should not persist past 24 hours). You might want to turn CID off for a couple days and see if it goes away, and that might narrow down exactly which problem you have. Better yet, freeze on white-on-black credits for a few minutes (no longer) and see if you have retention of that.
 

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Pioneers usually come out of the box with the brightness level all the way up. I assume you adjusted it down to prevent images from burning into your display.
Actually, ALL manufactures do that so that which ever lucky set gets picked for display in a store, will hopefully stand out if no one messes with the settings...

And everyone should immediately turn brightness and contrast down on almost every tv sold...
 
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