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Or maybe I should ask: Are HD locals included with SD locals?

I'm buying a 211 outright (no *&$# lease fee for me!), and I can easily move my 148 dish to 129 to get the Denver locals. I already have AT180 plus my SD Denver locals. Can I just point at 129 to get my HD locals without subscribing to any of those HD metal packs? Will Dish even activate a 211 without a metal pack?

And before you suggest that I just put up a good OTA antenna, I already did. Denver broadcasters are wrestling with a small group of neighbors of the big broadcast antennae, so for now, I can hardly get anything OTA. I often wonder if Comcast is lending any support to that anti-OTA HD group. ;)
 

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If you pay for the SD locals, then the HD locals automatically pop in on a MPEG4 box. HOWEVER, if you dont get one of the "metal" packs, you get charged a $6 "no HD" BS fee
 

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FTA Michael said:
I'm buying a 211 outright (no *&$# lease fee for me!), and I can easily move my 148 dish to 129 to get the Denver locals. I already have AT180 plus my SD Denver locals.
You didn't say I BOUGHT so I wanted to mention that the only real difference in price between purchasing the 211 and leasing it would come if the 211 becomes the ONLY receiver on the account. If you keep some existing receiver active, you'll be adding an extra receiver fee for the 211 which is normally a push for the lease fee. It would be possible to make the additional receiver fee end up $5 instead of the $6 lease and save a buck (and no 18 month commit). Most people wouldn't get much financial benefit from the purchase instead of a lease. Knowing you don't pay a *&$# lease fee is a good enough reason to do so, but wanted to make sure it isn't a $ issue that prompts the purchase.
 
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