[houskamp]

Can we just get back to trying to help each other? That is what I thought this forum was for..:nono2:

 

[lwilli201]

That would be great, but there always seems to be someone out there with an axe to grind and end up trashing good threads.

 

[markrubi]

In the words of Rodney King.

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG...


I would like to add Can't we get a DVR which records and plays all shows consistently?

 

[hdtvfan0001]

In the words of Rodney King.

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG...

I would like to add Can't we get a DVR which records and plays all shows consistently?

My HR20 does.

Can we just get back to trying to help each other? That is what I thought this forum was for..:nono2:

Amen. It seems like every few hours some ranter starts a thread and the insult parade begins, the jabs exchange, and the thread (finally) gets closed. The moderators must be getting quite sick of all this too.

 

[lwilli201]

How about the person that starts a thread be the moterator of that thread with delete authority. Probably not tech possible.

 

[Citivas]

Can we just get back to trying to help each other? That is what I thought this forum was for..:nono2:

I completely agree. These BS threads where the people who have basically working units try to suggest that the people whose units are basically broken toasters are trouble makers for posting about it are getting old...

 

[jstaffin]

Can we just get back to trying to help each other? That is what I thought this forum was for..:nono2:

I too am getting sick of only seeing people ranting about how the HR-20 is a piece of ****. We all know there are issues, personally, mine works well enough for me not to complain, I know that there are others that don't but what purpose is all this ranting serving, it certainly isn't going to get the problems fixed any faster.

 

[linuxworks]

I too am getting sick of only seeing people ranting about how the HR-20 is a piece of ****. We all know there are issues

so you DO admit its not delivering on its promises.

personally, mine works well enough for me not to complain,

good for you. that does not, however, mean that others also are guaranteed to get your level of operability with this defective (by design) product.

I know that there are others that don't but what purpose is all this ranting serving, it certainly isn't going to get the problems fixed any faster.

it does serve a purpose. two, actually. there's the emotional relief that we all need when so much frustration bottles up. then there's the real value of complaining IN PUBLIC about a really poorly done product that was released to the public about 6mos too soon (if not more).

keeping the complaint level going IS useful as its a form of civil disobedience (sort of). its one of the only ways to voice our opinion and let potential customers (and the DTV staff, themselves) know without a shadow of doubt how really BAD this whole rollout was. ;(

you can easily skip threads you don't want to read. I would not argue to have threads killed or suppressed - I do find that they serve a useful purpose as long as they don't get personal or abusive.

DTV does 'deserve' to constantly hear about our troubles. they are the CAUSE of it, afterall.

 

[Earl Bonovich]

:shrug:

If you don't want to be a part of those threads...
Don't read them... don't reply to them...

Let them run their course, and they will fall off the first page.

I am not going to start hyper-moderating the forum.

I do want things to be constructive, and help get the unit where it needs to be... so more of the "fun" things about the unit and the future DirecTV can be introduced.

 

[byron]

DTV does 'deserve' to constantly hear about our troubles. they are the CAUSE of it, afterall.

if you are wanting a place to vent and let your voice be heard by D*.... rant in their forums.

http://forums.directv.com/pe/forums/displaymsgboardlist.jsp

i would prefer that this place be more targeted to helping people and having technical discussions as opposed to people blowing off steam about how much they hate their HR20.

 

[veryoldschool]

so you DO admit its not delivering on its promises.
good for you. that does not, however, mean that others also are guaranteed to get your level of operability with this defective (by design) product.
it does serve a purpose. two, actually. there's the emotional relief that we all need when so much frustration bottles up. then there's the real value of complaining IN PUBLIC about a really poorly done product that was released to the public about 6mos too soon (if not more).
keeping the complaint level going IS useful as its a form of civil disobedience (sort of). its one of the only ways to voice our opinion and let potential customers (and the DTV staff, themselves) know without a shadow of doubt how really BAD this whole rollout was. ;(
you can easily skip threads you don't want to read. I would not argue to have threads killed or suppressed - I do find that they serve a useful purpose as long as they don't get personal or abusive.
DTV does 'deserve' to constantly hear about our troubles. they are the CAUSE of it, afterall.

I have to agree with you, but: I've started to make a post & before I "submit" I review & find I can skip it & have still gotten it out of my system.
If you really want D* to know: call them, post on their forum, etc.
This is not to infringe on any of your rights to post here. Just my evolution as I've "been there done that."

 

[Doug Brott]

I've started to make a post & before I "submit" I review & find I can skip it & have still gotten it out of my system.

So, So true. I do this all the time. You get the good feeling of saying your peace, without the ill-will of actually saying out loud.

 

[linuxworks]

if you are wanting a place to vent and let your voice be heard by D*.... rant in their forums.

http://forums.directv.com/pe/forums/displaymsgboardlist.jsp

i would prefer that this place be more targeted to helping people and having technical discussions as opposed to people blowing off steam about how much they hate their HR20.

there's enough bits on the ethere for both kinds of threads, no?

or is this forum's data feed being BITSTARVED, by DTV, too?

I am lothe to limiting free speech. its easy enough to skip threads you don't want to read. but telling others they can't post valid complaints seems to harsh a way to run a forum, to me.

once the inherent problems with the box go away, THEN you can have your 'nice peaceful valley' like you seem to want.

for now, the valley is undergoing a storm. none of us like it, but its how the state of things are, right now, for us DTV subscribers.

(btw, I'm still a DTV customer and have no plans to bail anytime soon. their SD offering has been mostly fine with me and I have no basic hatred toward DTV; only their latest decision on the killing of tivo and the switch-out to this no-name box that doesn't even work as described or 'designed'.)

 

[Doug Brott]

I am lothe to limiting free speech. its easy enough to skip threads you don't want to read. but telling others they can't post valid complaints seems to harsh a way to run a forum, to me.

There is a constructive way to make a statement or a destructive way to make a statement. I think the POS rants serve only to soothe the person making the rant, and in many cases it doesn't even serve that purpose. You'll find plenty of "not working" comments on this board. I've been shouting out about the Spontaneous Reboots since 0x115 myself. If this site devolved into simple ranting, be assured that it would lose it's appeal.

The funny thing is, 0x115 IMHO is worse than 0x10b, but the actual number of rant threads seems to have gone down since then.

 

[Earl Bonovich]

Yes... there are places for both.

And that is just it:

valid compalints

To me: HR20 is a POS is not a valid complaint

HR20 is a POS, because it did this and this and this....
Is valid.

And this isn't about voicing the problems you have with the box...
But if this place just becomes a "*****fest" which a lot of forums have become in the past.
Then it is dead... and the forum has no value, unless you just want to *****.

And frankly... I want this place to have value... and I want it's value to grow... as do a lot of people (not just the staff), that have put a lot of time an energy in getting the forum to this point.

 

[veryoldschool]

And frankly... I want this place to have value... and I want it's value to grow... as do a lot of people (not just the staff), that have put a lot of time an energy in getting the forum to this point.

Hear Hear!

 

[bonscott87]

so you DO admit its not delivering on its promises.

Who doesn't? Even though my HR20 so far has done pretty good it's pretty clear there are problems. I don't think anyone says that their aren't problems.

The issue is people starting threads complaining but not actually wanting or looking for help. Certainly their right but it gets really, really old, really fast.

 

[Nick]

Hear Hear!

I would even go as far as to say... "Here! Here! :grin:

 

[tbackus]

does this qualify as a BS thread? :lol:

 

[veryoldschool]

I would even go as far as to say... "Here! Here! :grin:

I was wondering which spelling...