CBS Warns DirecTV, AT&T U-Verse May Drop Network

Ouch. I am glad I have an AM-21.

 

I cannot receive any OTA in my location but I do already have CBS All Access should I need it.

 

I just read that CBS O&O stations may be dropped by D* on July 20.

DIRECTV, DIRECTV NOW, and AT&T U-VERSE TV may drop CBS Dallas! (hyperlink)

 

I just read that CBS O&O stations may be dropped by D* on July 20.

DIRECTV, DIRECTV NOW, and AT&T U-VERSE TV may drop CBS Dallas! (hyperlink)

This is B.S.!!!! I already have 2 locals that are gone because of the NEXSTAR dispute

 

Why are they blocking the ota signal with the message. However they are sending the program signal via satellite?

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The plug hasn't been pulled yet - so they are still providing CBS stations by satellite. If there is a message on your OTA (LCC or AM-21) CBS station, it's likely ATT telling you their side of the story.

It's certainly interesting, however, that they can/would inject something onto an OTA signal on your DVR.

 

"CBS would like to avoid being dropped, but unless an agreement is reached, our viewers should be prepared for DirecTV and AT&T U-verse TV to remove CBS-owned television stations in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, Dallas, San Francisco, Boston, Atlanta, Tampa, Seattle, Detroit, Minneapolis, Miami, Denver, Sacramento, Pittsburgh and Baltimore at 11:00 PM, PT on July 19,” CBS said. “DirecTV Now customers nationwide would lose the CBS Television Network’s hit programming as well."

I'm in San Diego's market, so it looks like I'm ok.

 

when they go dark, what stations will replace KCBS and WCBS for the distance stations.

also, i guess i be watching Colbert via OTA and in Youtube clips for now, because CBS owns KTVT and KTXA, which are 2 locals in my area.

 

My friend that works at the local call center also confirmed this affects 2 national channels CBS owns: CBS Sports Network and Smithsonian Channel. Pop TV and Showtime are unaffected as they are covered under separate agreements.

CBS' owned & operated CW stations are also affected and CBS has opened a separate website just for The CW (DIRECTV, AT&T U-Verse TV and DIRECTV NOW may drop the CW!) This also impacts their independent stations the 2 affiliated with MyNetworkTV.

In a way I find this ironic in terms of The CW considering CBS and AT&T each own 50% in this small network.

 

I won't be happy about it, but I'm not losing sleep over it until it happens. Historically, DTV has settled almost every one of these before stations go dark. I know there's an ongoing dispute right now, but this one is major markets. I'll be surprised if they don't hammer something out or extend the deadline.

 

I'll be surprised if they don't hammer something out or extend the deadline.

You may be surprised. Last February we lost our local FOX and MNT affiliates because of a dispute. They are no longer available. Recently we lost our local ABC affiliate because of a dispute though negotiations continue. Now there's the CBS fiasco. Apparently AT&T is playing hardball with content providers.

 

Anyone got the latest set of carriage dispute BINGO cards? I don't know about Dallas (I rarely watch OTA at the moment), but in Sacramento, this dispute affects both CBS13 and CW31.

 

This might be a good thing. Should be able to get an llc out of this and pick up the sub-channels

 

In Albuquerque we lost CBS and FOX, $15 one time credit and a local channel connector overnighted. Wish they still had the am21 available for the thr22 but whatever.

 

The title of this thread is backwards. No one at DirecTV is dropping anything. Rather CBS, Inc is wanting to charge customers yet more, and DirecTV is standing up for us, the consumer.

Local TV should be free.

 

*******local tv is free.......ota

 

While I agree and have been through many of these disputes both as a customer and CSR/Team Leader, it's still very frustrating. The game seems to always go Directv pays more to start rebroadcasting, powering back on all the racks for these stations, or they don't come back. Once that happens it will be Spectrums, Xfinitys, Youtubes, SlingTVs, and Dish Networks turn. Then back to Directv again for more money, while the rates we pay will continue to increase.

I'm not at all convinced that cordcutting will be the answer to these issues if YoutubeTVs recent price increase is any indication, it will be the choice of IPTV or the large current tv providers. I doubt the shift of customers from current providers to smart tv equipment will lower anyone's price in the long term.

My Plex library and equipment is only becoming larger and more powerful, but sometimes i just like flipping through channels. "Magically" Jeopardy and few other shows appear to watch hours/days before the scheduled air time, yet we're stuck with our current archaic system.

 

WCBS in NY has a graphic warning that Directv viewers may lose CBS.

 

How graphic is it?

 

WCBS in NY has a graphic warning that Directv viewers may lose CBS.
How graphic is it?
1 HR54-500, 1 C61K-700, 1 HR24-200


It contains verbiage designed to place fear in the hearts of CBS viewers. It's time for Directv to make locals optional at a lower cost. Would encourage more people to add antennas.

 

CBS may not be that upset, might help get people to sign up for CBS All Access. CBS gets either $5.99 or $9.99 (if you pick the no commercial version, which I picked the last free week I had so I would not have to watch the same Planters Peanut commercial during every commercial break). And most CBS locals can be watched live on All Access. It could be a win/win for CBS. Users can get the first week free, so if the dispute last less than a week, users can cancel before the end of the first week.

 

You can use a VPN and get locals from other cities with CBS All Access too. As you can with Locast which is free but less of a selection.

 

and come nfl time will they crack down on that free NFL Sunday ticket trick?

 

I'm not 100% certain but I don't think CBS All Access LIve feed is allowed to carry the NFL games. At least I know the first season I had CBS All Access they couldn't but that may have changed.

 

I see my local CBS channel (KMOV in St. Louis, MO.) was removed by Dish today.

 

I see that WCBS New York and KCBS Los Angeles Ch’s 390-391, DSN channels have been change. East coast is WUSA out of Washington DC and West coast is CBS 8 out of San Diego.

 

I see that WCBS New York and KCBS Los Angeles Ch's 390-391, DSN channels have been change. East coast is WUSA out of Washington DC and West coast is CBS 8 out of San Diego.

I saw that today and this merry go round is getting to be complete BS. So they replace the national feeds with 2 Tegna stations they were bellyaching about a few years ago? They won't be Tegna bed buddies when that contract comes up again looking for more money. F@&$ these local station groups and the NAB lobby. DTV or any provider should be able to pick up these FREE unencrypted signals up without this BS extortion game

AT&T And Tegna Avoid Local TV Blackout With Retransmission Deal - Deadline

 

I wish (we) as Subscribers could OPT out of receiving locals -Then the service providers would know how many really need a deal to be done.

 

I thought the distant networks were covered by a different set up than the regular locals. At least back in the day before locals and you had to swear you could not get networks with an antenna, the rate was set by the Librarian of Congress based on some market study.

 

I thought the distant networks were covered by a different set up than the regular locals.

They are. The change in distants makes it easier for DIRECTV to continue to serve the distant customers while turning off the local customer.

Theoretically DIRECTV could continue to deliver a station as a distant even if it was not carried as a local as long as no one in that station's local market received that signal. DIRECTV does not need that station's permission for the rebroadcast (and they are not paying Tegna - so they are not doing them any favors changing to a Tenga owned station). But if any distant subscribers happened to be in market for the dropped station DIRECTV would need to cut them off. It is easier to change to a feed of a station under contract.

(Payment is made through a statutory rate. DIRECTV pays in to a fund and copyright owners claim from the fund. Tegna could claim from the fund for any content rebroadcast that they own (such as local news) but it is up to the copyright owners to claim from the fund for their own content.)

 

Oh channel 3-1 the DirecTV slate mentions you may be able to stream CBS via the locast app by hitting the right arrow and choosing it. There is no locast app on a genie client. Who has such an app and how does it work?

 

It is only in a certain select markets.

 

Lucky for me, I've maintained a local only cable package with Optimum, so I'll still be able to see CBS, but, no DVR option there. But, if Sept rolls around and this is still not resolved, then, Optimum might be where I'm headed permanently. I know these issues always pop up with all of the providers. I've been toying with the idea of switching, considering at least temporarily I could save some money, but the bad reviews for Altice One DVR are what's keeping me from switching. But if push comes to shove, I'll give it a shot.

 

Ok I got Locast to work on my Roku. Surprised how well it works to be honest. I'm in the Philadelphia market.

The local cable company just started offering Arris Tivo. The ads show a voice remote, record up to 6 shows at once, a bunch of apps built in like Netflix, Youtube, Music Choice, etc... and Mini clients for other rooms. I know there are a lot of die hard Tivo fans out there, but switching is a real pain. Its certainly is a viable option. A friend of mine who is an installer for the cable company said either I have to bundle in their Docsis 3.1 gateway (because it has moca right on its coax port), or have ethernet handy for the main Tivo. Luckilly I ran a few ethernet jacks at every TV wall outlet when I moved in the house. I use Ubiquiti UniFi networking in my mechanical room, so I can continue to use my own modem and not have a rental fee for one.

The one good thing about switching is TV, DVR and those apps all in one interface. No input switching makes things convenient. I couldn't wait around forever for AT&T to add Netflix to its app list. So I use either a Roku, Blu Ray Player or Xbox One depending on what TV I am on for Netflix / Youtube. I certainly understand why Comcast added Netflix to X1. If you stay on the same input, it puts Cable (and on demand) on a level playing field with the streaming services. If people switch inputs, who knows how long until they switch back.