[LarryFlowers]

The FCC has been overturned in the CBS/Janet Jackson/Superbowl incident:

A federal appeals court just tossed the $550K fine against CBS for her infamous 2004 "wardrobe malfunction," ruling that the FCC acted "arbitrarily and capriciously" in slapping CBS with the fine.

No Surprise there.

 

[tcusta00]

Sheesh, I know the court system is backed up, but 4 1/2 years later?! :eek2: :nono2:

 

[Drew2k]

If the FCC could not prove that CBS was aware of and had approved the stunt that Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake pulled off, I think it's justified that CBS not be fined. Justice is served. Now, if they want to go after Jackson and Timberlake ...

 

[N5XZS]

What we really need to do is overhaul the dumb FCC system, and their dumb TV rating system.

Besides, we are 20 years behind what Europeans TV broadcasters has been showing R to XX rated TV shows OTA for years.:eek2:

Here in the USA is all TV shows are cut up, and censored on the OTA channels thanks to FCC and besides TV shows are crappy it's all G-rated anyway....:barf:

Also just use MPAA rating and we just don't have need to have 2 different rating systems.

Also I think the PTC, should be fined for sending a massive E-mail false protests to the FCC, just because some salty words being said on TV.:nono2:

Besides kids will alway hear F words, out in the school or any public places or even better sport stadiums which has the reptutation for the most F words around!:hurah:

And remember this F word and nudity stuff, has always been goes back to caveman time!! You will never be able to get rid of this good ranchy system.

7-21-08

 

[Steve Mehs]

What we really need to do is overhaul the dumb FCC system, and their dumb TV rating system.

Besides, we are 20 years behind what Europeans TV broadcasters has been showing R to XX rated TV shows OTA for years.:eek2:

Here in the USA is all TV shows are cut up, and censored on the OTA channels thanks to FCC and besides TV shows are crappy it's all G-rated anyway....:barf:

Also just use MPAA rating and we just don't have need to have 2 different rating systems.

Also I think the PTC, should be fined for sending a massive E-mail false protests to the FCC, just because some salty words being said on TV.:nono2:

Besides kids will alway hear F words, out in the school or any public places or even better sport stadiums which has the reptutation for the most F words around!:hurah:

And remember this F word and nudity stuff, has always been goes back to caveman time!! You will never be able to get rid of this good ranchy system.

7-21-08

See that's called common sense. Those in the PTC and those that support them, they have mental problems that cause them not to comprehend common sense. Great news! I'm glad CBS got off the hook for this stupidity this should have never even been an issue, but thanks to the wacks in the country it was.

 

[MrMojoJojo]

I think South Park nailed it perfectly in the Fun Times With Weapons episode. Butters is up on the stage for the county fair's auction, disguised (badly) as a dog, and with a shurukien in his eye. Cartman decides to "make himself invisible" and try to nab Butters off the stage, when in reality he is stark naked. This causes a huge stir at the next town meeting when they get upset not at the boys for playing with Ninja Weapons, but because Cartman was naked and being broadcast on Public TV, where "Literally dozens of people saw that boy's genitalia!"

Cartman only responds by saying "It was... a.. uh.. wardrobe malfunction?"

 

[Steve Mehs]

That was a great episode, that and that one Go Daddy Super Bowl Commercial was a great middle finger to those that made a big deal out of this or want Viacom sued out of business. Although the prudes that were 'outraged' at the Super Bowl Half Time Performance are probably not the target demo of South Park.

 

[MrMojoJojo]

True, but the rest of us still found it hilarious.

 

[scooper]

If the FCC could not prove that CBS was aware of and had approved the stunt that Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake pulled off, I think it's justified that CBS not be fined. Justice is served. Now, if they want to go after Jackson and Timberlake ...

I have to agree with you on that one ...

 

[Guest]

What we really need to do is overhaul the dumb FCC system, and their dumb TV rating system.

Besides, we are 20 years behind what Europeans TV broadcasters has been showing R to XX rated TV shows OTA for years.:eek2:

More like 50 years. And you can blame the party that controls the majority of seats on the FCC for the crackdown that has been going on the past few years. It was moving in the other direction (i.e., standards were being relaxed) before the current majority of the commission was appointed. Since political discussions are not welcome in this forum, I will refrain from naming names.

 

[Roquefort]

... Besides, we are 20 years behind what Europeans TV broadcasters has been showing R to XX rated TV shows OTA for years...

Not just TV....Europeans have different standards. Period.

Wifey and I were on vacation in the UK last year. We saw at a underground station a billboard advertising a brand of brassiere...let's just say (I don't want to get in trouble here) that the photograph of the model left nothing to imagination.

If it had been in the US, certain parts of that model's breasts would have been airbrushed for sure.

We traveled to Spain, Germany and France and saw the same things. Either billboards, TV ads, and even magazines at news stands.

Nobody cares over there.

In our good ol' US of A, stuff like that would *never* fly.:nono2:

 

[Scott in FL]

Not just TV....Europeans have different standards. Period.

Wifey and I were on vacation in the UK last year. We saw at a underground station a billboard advertising a brand of brassiere...let's just say (I don't want to get in trouble here) that the photograph of the model left nothing to imagination.

If it had been in the US, certain parts of that model's breasts would have been airbrushed for sure.

We traveled to Spain, Germany and France and saw the same things. Either billboards, TV ads, and even magazines at news stands.

Nobody cares over there.

In our good ol' US of A, stuff like that would *never* fly.:nono2:

I wouldn't say nobody cares. They just don't sweat the small stuff (like what we were all born with, our bodies). When this all happened I was still living in Holland and all of my Dutch friends thought "nipple gate" was ridiculous. Ditto for my British, Irish and German friends. I have to agree... the good ol' US of A didn't look too swift on this one.

What they couldn't understand is how we are so uptight about nudity and sex, but guns and violence are OK. I had no answer for them.

 

[scooper]

most of us "free thinkers" in the USA also have the european view about what is acceptable TV on the public airwaves. I'd rather see nudity / sex / etc. than violence too...

 

[tsmacro]

Wow that's over four years of lawyers fees being paid and for what? No wonder so many people want to go to law school, after all apparantly there's never going to be any shortage of stupid people wanting fight over stupid stuff and are willing to pay lawyers good money so they can do it.

 

[paulman182]

Wow that's over four years of lawyers fees being paid and for what? No wonder so many people want to go to law school, after all apparantly there's never going to be any shortage of stupid people wanting fight over stupid stuff and are willing to pay lawyers good money so they can do it.

You're right. CBS should have had a digital delay and used it, and saved everyone a lot of grief.

 

[Scott in FL]

You're right. CBS should have had a digital delay and used it, and saved everyone a lot of grief.

A digital delay on the Superbowl??? I don't think so.

And I doubt if lawyers were collecting fees for all of those 4 years. I think that's how long it took the Appeals Court to hear the case.

 

[jkane]

The lawyers were collecting fees for 8 years over those 4 years. They always bill 48 hours in any given 24 hour period.

 

[paulman182]

A digital delay on the Superbowl??? I don't think so.

I don't think a 7-second delay would bother, or be noticed by, many viewers.

 

[Scott in FL]

I don't think a 7-second delay would bother, or be noticed by, many viewers.

Plus add the latency from the video encoder, plus contribution satellite delay and your over 10 seconds before it even hits the tv transmitters. More latency, possibly more satellite delay...

But whether or not the viewer would notice or mind isn't really the issue. After working in broadcasting for 35+ years trust me, the broadcasters would never go for it!

 

[paulman182]

Plus add the latency from the video encoder, plus contribution satellite delay and your over 10 seconds before it even hits the tv transmitters. More latency, possibly more satellite delay...

But whether or not the viewer would notice or mind isn't really the issue. After working in broadcasting for 35+ years trust me, the broadcasters would never go for it!

Since this incident they have used it on other live events, although not sporting events AFAIK.