satcrazy, I knew to be leery of buying used receivers after do a little reading. I had called Dish about one receiver to check the balance. For the price, hassle, and need for remote controls, I figured I might as well go new. I also understand what you mean about wondering if the ones I bought are "new". I had seen the receivers on various websites that said the receivers might be new or remanufactured. I guess you don't know until you get them, which seems strange. I didn't know about the sticker on the back indicating whether receivers are new or refurbished. I will check for sure!
bnborg, I had looked at Dish Depot prior to making my purchase at Boater Barn. I don't believe they had any standalone vip211k receivers listed. They were packaged with other stuff. Or the price was higher; I don't remember. Because now, with free shipping, their deal is a little cheaper on the standalone receiver, I would've ordered from them. I wasn't quite ready to pull the trigger on the Tailgater yet. I assume their receivers are "new". Don't sites have to declare whether items are remanufactured/refurbished when they advertise them for sale?
Just checked that link from bnborg [ thanks for that] called the number, talked to the guy that runs it, asked about "new" or "Reman", he assured me they are new. Interestingly enough, he pointed out that if the serial number begins with a "W" they are remans, if they begin with a "R", they are new. I told him I understood the "R" was reman, he said nope, other way around.
Wish someone here with actual knowledge about this would chime in.
If the guy from dishdepot is correct, I would definately deal with him. The price is right.
I had a un-satisfying experience with a replacement 222k receiver from Dish, color was way off and one of the rear rca audio jacks did not work. Thankfully Dish replaced it with no fuss, and it's all good now.
After looking at my paperwork from dish that came with this latest receiver, there are three sets of numbers, 1. Smart card 2. receiver "caid" number and the last set of numbers under another bar code that starts with a "W". above that barcode reads "222k reman." viola!
The guy from dishdepot was spot on.
So, P smith is right, to a point, you can get a decent reman, I did. But If I remember correctly, the crappy receiver was also a reman, so it can be a crap shoot.
One thing I didn't ask the guy at dishdepot was return policy if it fails, or doesn't work the way it should. I would check that.