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I have a brand new samsung 1080p lcd (ln-s4695d) and new HD package from dish with the vip 622...Im new to the AV game...but when I change from 480p to 1080i...on HD channels I cant tell any difference...I dont have a sensitive eye when it comes to quality but Im pretty sure it looks the same...Any suggestions?

Also, should I invest in an upconverter that will conver the signal from the vip622 1080i to 1080p?


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I have a brand new samsung 1080p lcd (ln-s4695d) and new HD package from dish with the vip 622...Im new to the AV game...but when I change from 480p to 1080i...on HD channels I cant tell any difference...I dont have a sensitive eye when it comes to quality but Im pretty sure it looks the same...Any suggestions?

Also, should I invest in an upconverter that will conver the signal from the vip622 1080i to 1080p?

Thanks in advance for the help
Unless someone went into the menu and adjusted the unit you are watching 480i. You have to go into the menu 6 (syst setup) 8 (HDTV setup) then adjust the tv type and aspect ratio. The 622 comes set as 480 due to the fact that the set it will be hooked up to is an unknown. This way an installer can use even a cheapy to set up the system b4 hooking up to the HDTV. So once you go into the menu and reset it to 1080i you will prolly be happier. I at this time wouldn't invest in any upconverter until you see what it looks like w/out it. the HDTV should do a good job of scaling w/o any outboard unit.
 

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It almost sounds like you don't have HD cables. Please tell us you are using HDMI or Componet cables AND you have your TV selected to the right input.

I know this sounds simplistic, but you didn't give us much informatin.
 

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A quality HDTV sometimes makes it difficult to distinguish video quality. With the same E* HD receiver on my newest HDTV, 480P, 720P, and 1080i all look outstanding with the slightest of difference in clarity. On my older HDTV the difference is more noticeable. Most HDTV's have the ability to convert the signal, changing it for the better. When it comes to using component, it is most difficult to tell the difference. HMDI quality is more distinguishable.
 

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By the way, here's a dirty little secret, all digital displays show 1080i in progressive mode, so unless you have a pure 1080p source (I believe only BlueRay is right now) you will not see ANY difference in your 1080 display quality.
 

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Isn't this a good reason why most of the public has not adopted HD? The darn thing has to be set up by a pro, and the two protocols can result in different PQ, requiring you to tweak every blessed channel.

This is the same thing that plagued color when it first came online. Color didn't go mainstream until the manufacturers and the broadcasters got (white) skin tones to look like skin instead of pumpkins, and viewers didn't have to constantly adjust their sets. Besides the price issue, HD will not catch on until you can get the thing out of the box, plug it in and watch!
 

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Isn't this a good reason why most of the public has not adopted HD? The darn thing has to be set up by a pro, and the two protocols can result in different PQ, requiring you to tweak every blessed channel.
Most installations of electronic equipment can benefit from something more than Joe Public's understanding of the state-of-the-art.

Just as installing a new display card in a computer is outside of the realm of the typical computer user, getting devices that have differing capabilities to work best together will benefit from experience and/or more than a little research.
 

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Ira Lacher said:
Isn't this a good reason why most of the public has not adopted HD? The darn thing has to be set up by a pro, and the two protocols can result in different PQ, requiring you to tweak every blessed channel.

This is the same thing that plagued color when it first came online. Color didn't go mainstream until the manufacturers and the broadcasters got (white) skin tones to look like skin instead of pumpkins, and viewers didn't have to constantly adjust their sets. Besides the price issue, HD will not catch on until you can get the thing out of the box, plug it in and watch!
I could not disagree more. HDTV setup is not difficult at all. Mostly it is plug and play and the plugs are easily identifiable. The picture is great, the sound is great, no major problems, except maybe foot dragging by local stations.
 

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The voom channels for me have been going downhill ever since I got my 622 in march. I have dvds that look better than some of the voom channels.
My minneapolis channels all look good in hd, but the real eye getter is when kare nbc 11 has their live hd broadcasts the pq is great. No why can dish do that channel so good but let the voom channels just keep degrading.
 
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