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smackman said:
The majority of people who watch a cable" new channel choose The Fox News Channel. That stands for itself of its importance.
More people watch breaking news and event news on CNN.

FoxNews has it's news junkies ... so does CNN ... people who turn on their news channel of choice every day and watch it for hours possibly so mesmerized by the ticker that they can't change the channel. But the casual news viewer ... the people who only look at news when there is something happening gravitate toward CNN.

FoxNews has it's regulars and the ratings show that ... but put an event on the air (hurricanes, convention acceptance speeches) and more people go to CNN.
 
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James Long said:
More people watch breaking news and event news on CNN.

FoxNews has it's news junkies ... so does CNN ... people who turn on their news channel of choice every day and watch it for hours possibly so mesmerized by the ticker that they can't change the channel. But the casual news viewer ... the people who only look at news when there is something happening gravitate toward CNN.

FoxNews has it's regulars and the ratings show that ... but put an event on the air (hurricanes, convention acceptance speeches) and more people go to CNN.
OVERALL, The Fox News Channel is the #1 rated cable news channel.
Look, I applaud your defense of Dish but its obvious you are "in the tank" to this company.
Nothing wrong with this. I have been with Dish since 2000.
The biggest reason I stay with Dish is because Directv does not offer my Locals AT ALL and another biggie is the quality of the HD DVR Receivers.
Being able to use The Dish DVR Features with my OTA input is a big time to me.
Directv wants a 50 dollar add on fee to access OTA. Dual outputs with 622.
Also, Dish has been more than fair to me in the last 3 years with issues about my billing. Dish has always "made it right." I found how to deal with CSR issues through this website.
This website is a tremendous asset to me.
I have looked very hard into the possibilty of moving to Directv but I always come back to Dish. One good thing is I am not under contract. I am a free agent.
I JUST WANT FOX NEWS CHANNEL.:D (and Spike)
 
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CorpITGuy said:
I was excited when I saw the Green Channel. I like the alternative fuel and energy production stuff I see on Discovery HD and was hoping for more of it on Green. I was disappointed it is mainly about renovating.
AT 200 doesn't have Planet Green so I'm thinking of switching to AT&T U-Verse where I can get 350 channels and high speed Internet for $124.00. Comcast raised Internet to $66.00.
 
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James Long said:
More people watch breaking news and event news on CNN.

FoxNews has it's news junkies ... so does CNN ... people who turn on their news channel of choice every day and watch it for hours possibly so mesmerized by the ticker that they can't change the channel. But the casual news viewer ... the people who only look at news when there is something happening gravitate toward CNN.

FoxNews has it's regulars and the ratings show that ... but put an event on the air (hurricanes, convention acceptance speeches) and more people go to CNN.
Well the only time I watch CNN is on Debates and national election nights.
 
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smackman said:
OVERALL, The Fox News Channel is the #1 rated cable news channel.
And DirecTV has more customers than DISH ... why are you not with the "#1" satellite provider?
The biggest reason I stay with Dish is because Directv does not offer my Locals AT ALL and another biggie is the quality of the HD DVR Receivers.
Ah, that's why. Sometimes the most popular service isn't the best. :)

Apparently you're "in the tank" for DISH Network just as much as I am ... you see them as the better service and can defend your reasons for choosing DISH.

I can't tell you all of the reasons why Fox News isn't my favorite ... most of them are political. It seems that they spend a lot of time bashing other news networks and claiming to be "fair" and not so much on the news. It also annoys me when they claim to be family friendly and show gratuitous shots of hookers and night club girls. Sure, if the story is about hookers show them (appropriately blurred) but don't turn your family news network into a soft core porn channel by showing pole dancers when you talk about unrelated teen sex. (It's almost like "we're talking about sex - show something sexy" is the mantra.) And Fox News is in the "Family" package of both satellite carriers. :(

Paul Secic said:
Well the only time I watch CNN is on Debates and national election nights.
You are not alone.
 
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James Long said:
More people watch breaking news and event news on CNN.

FoxNews has it's news junkies ... so does CNN ... people who turn on their news channel of choice every day and watch it for hours possibly so mesmerized by the ticker that they can't change the channel. But the casual news viewer ... the people who only look at news when there is something happening gravitate toward CNN.

FoxNews has it's regulars and the ratings show that ... but put an event on the air (hurricanes, convention acceptance speeches) and more people go to CNN.
Back that up with some ratings numbers please. Many of FNC's shows slaughter CNN in the ratings and since FNC is the number one cable news channel how can CNN be so good viewership wise casual or not if it's not number one in the ratings?
 
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Which "Cable" News Channel someone prefers depends tremendously on ones political persuasion.
 
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James Long said:
Apparently you're "in the tank" for DISH Network just as much as I am ... you see them as the better service and can defend your reasons for choosing DISH.
All I want is for E* to be "fair" and get Fox News. Seriously, You have to subscribe to AT 200 at a minimum with HD pkg.:(

I can't tell you all of the reasons why Fox News isn't my favorite ... most of them are political. It seems that they spend a lot of time bashing other news networks and claiming to be "fair" and not so much on the news. It also annoys me when they claim to be family friendly and show gratuitous shots of hookers and night club girls. Sure, if the story is about hookers show them (appropriately blurred) but don't turn your family news network into a soft core porn channel by showing pole dancers when you talk about unrelated teen sex. (It's almost like "we're talking about sex - show something sexy" is the mantra.) And Fox News is in the "Family" package of both satellite carriers. :(

What are you talking about and what time does this air?


No one is more "BIASED" than CNN IMO but I admit I am very partisan in my political views especially right now.
Fox News is partisan but thats America and we need a choice in the HD package IMO.
 
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I would prefer a news channel that showed NO political news, if such a thing existed.

Reporting on them only encourages them!
 
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I'm like you, paulman182. I prefer Fox to CNN or MSNBC due to my political persuasion, but I can't stand the talking heads and "strategists" on either network. Just give me the news and let me decide without the commentary!

That's what CNN Headline News USED to be... now it is just like Fox and CNN.
 
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etzeppy said:
This forum can't seem to operate with no polical news or spin. Good luck finding a news station that does.
What does polical mean?:rolleyes: :scratchin

Just kidding. Everyone that is involved in todays "news" knows the hatchets are out on both sides. It gets ugly at times but it is also very educational as well as humorous at times.
CNN is one sided big time. Fox News "leans" right most of the time. Left right, up down, your way my way, etc. This is life as its always been.
 
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smackman said:
What does polical mean?:rolleyes: :scratchin

Just kidding. Everyone that is involved in todays "news" knows the hatchets are out on both sides. It gets ugly at times but it is also very educational as well as humorous at times.
CNN is one sided big time. Fox News "leans" right most of the time. Left right, up down, your way my way, etc. This is life as its always been.
I say fire them all and start again.:eek2:
 
I have refrained from jumping into the Fox vs CNN vs MSNBC discussion per Mr. Long's request early on, but since he has decided to provide editorial content, I will provide mine. Fox can truthfully declare itself "fair and balanced" when it is compared to the other networks. I have watched MSNBC's coverage, and find that it is all Obama, all the time. Olberman & Maddow's shows do nothing but chronical their hatred of Republicans, their candidates, and Fox News. Not once per week... but every show! Entire programs have been devoted to bashing Fox News by pulling Fox reports out of context. I think CNN mostly tries for "fair and balanced", but most of the show hosts cannot resist showing their bias one way or the other. Fox goes out of their way to have representatives from both sides on just about every interview. Even Obama and Hillary said that on the whole, Fox News was the most fair to them. James Carville, for Got's sake agrees. Yes, Hannity is a supporter of Conservative values, but he is paired with Colmes who is in the liberal tank. The fact that they are mostly fair is why Fox News ratings are huge... even among liberals.
 
Bobham said:
I have refrained from jumping into the Fox vs CNN vs MSNBC discussion per Mr. Long's request early on, but since he has decided to provide editorial content, I will provide mine. Fox can truthfully declare itself "fair and balanced" when it is compared to the other networks. I have watched MSNBC's coverage, and find that it is all Obama, all the time. Olberman & Maddow's shows do nothing but chronical their hatred of Republicans, their candidates, and Fox News. Not once per week... but every show! Entire programs have been devoted to bashing Fox News by pulling Fox reports out of context. I think CNN mostly tries for "fair and balanced", but most of the show hosts cannot resist showing their bias one way or the other. Fox goes out of their way to have representatives from both sides on just about every interview. Even Obama and Hillary said that on the whole, Fox News was the most fair to them. James Carville, for Got's sake agrees. Yes, Hannity is a supporter of Conservative values, but he is paired with Colmes who is in the liberal tank. The fact that they are mostly fair is why Fox News ratings are huge... even among liberals.
Wow. I missed fox being fair and balance.:eek2:

I just tried to watch fox, Wonder Woman on Politics (strategy room). Well I guess she started to speak to much true so they cut off the video.
So I still don't see it, I do see unfair and not balanced.
Show the whole thing or don't show it at all!!!
 
You missed Fox News being "fair and balanced" because you think the other networks are not biased.

Fact is, CNN, MSNBC, etc. are all extremely left biased. I mean extreme. I cannot watch CNN for five minutes without wanting to throw a brick through the TV. However, most viewers are conditioned to think this is balanced, because all news channels and network news coverage except Fox News is the same way.

Fox sticks out as not being completely 100% left-wing, and therefore many people falsely claim it is right-wing. It is not. In fact I cannot even remember ever seeing anything that was not outright commentary or opinion (such as Hannity or O'Reilly) on Fox that could be construed as biased in favor of conservatives. News should be void of bias. CNN et al do news pieces that are loaded with bias. Fox does news pieces that are just plain old news.

It's all a moot point though because Fox News Channel is not available in my programming package, or any HD-only package. HD-only programming is the wave of the future. This is not a conspiracy by Dish to not offer Fox News Channel right now. It is just because they are cheap, and the constantly drag their feet adding any new channels, without any bias whatsoever, unless those channels are forced upon them by virtue of an existing contract. I am hardly complaining since no other provider offers Fox News Channel, plus all of the other HD channels I have, for anything close to the price that I am paying.

I guess you get what you pay for, and in this case, I am not willing to pay to get Fox News Channel. But in the case of Dish Network, we all get and pay for a whole lot of things we don't want, like CNN for me. I'd trade 80% of my HD channels for Fox News HD, but I only watch about 8 channels.
 
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