A net gain in LA
A net loss in US of 52k (I believe this is their first loss ever)
A total net gain for US and LA combined
A net loss in US of 52k (I believe this is their first loss ever)
A total net gain for US and LA combined
Are we seeing the affect of Dish Hopper marketing for the quarter?"DodgerKing" said:A net gain in LA
A net loss in US of 52k (I believe this is their first loss ever)
A total net gain for US and LA combined
That and the Viacom dispute probably.raott said:Are we seeing the affect of Dish Hopper marketing for the quarter?
Nope. Dish lost even more...much moreraott said:Are we seeing the affect of Dish Hopper marketing for the quarter?
Dish only lost 10k in that same period according to the thread in the Dish forum. Even so, shoots the theory down that they went to Dish."DodgerKing" said:Nope. Dish lost even more...much more
While DISH hasn't made their official quarterly announcement, the 8K information says your much wrong.DodgerKing said:Nope. Dish lost even more...much more
Comcast lost 176k:Sgt. Slaughter said:Well I guess ppl are just cutting cords then overall....
freaking TWC lost 169K subs.... http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/02/twc-q2-2012/
Not wrong at all. This is the first quarter DirecTV has ever had a net loss is subs, ever. When you factor LA and US, they had a net gain. While Dish, over several quarters, has had a net loss of subs, a lot of subs.harsh said:While DISH hasn't made their official quarterly announcement, the 8K information says your much wrong.
http://www.fiercecable.com/story/dish-network-loses-10k-subscribers-q2-2012/2012-07-20
In the first half of the 2012, DISH has added 65,000 more net subscribers.
DIRECTV's US profits remain high with their $94.40 ARPU; up $3.82 over last year's quarter. DIRECTV is fast approaching the triple digits in ARPU and I can't help but think that's going to be a plateau (but I could certainly be wrong).
The DIRECTV LA news would be happier if their ARPU wasn't just over $57 and their churn at 1.80% but that's how they roll.
SAC was $857, up 6.9% over last year. Attracting new customers has become VERY expensive.
The post you originally replied to (which Harsh then responded to) was about whether the Dish Hopper was affecting Directv's second quarter numbers. Nothing to do with LA or the first quarter. You asserted that Dish lost many more subscribers. It appears that is not true. Although they did lose 10k, it was not as many US customers as Directv. I'm sure Harsh will correct me, but that is likely why he said you were wrong."DodgerKing" said:Not wrong at all. This is the first quarter DirecTV has ever had a net loss is subs, ever. When you factor LA and US, they had a net gain. While Dish, over several quarters, has had a net loss of subs, a lot of subs.
The Viacom dispute occurred in the 3rd quarter.Go Beavs said:That and the Viacom dispute probably.
But Fios has a lot more to offer than most other providers (faster internet, perfect PQ, etc.). I think they are an anomaly. Nearly everyone else is losing subs, likely due to cord cutters, many of whom are driven by costs.dcowboy7 said:Fios added 134,000....guess they dont have scissors.
You really are fixated on espn. They are not the source of all evils in this business."Gloria_Chavez" said:It's finally impacted D*. Took awhile, but it was inevitable.
Glance at my signature line.
The real median income continues to decline. Yet, PayTv distributors ask for 7%+ annual rate hikes. Something's gotta give.
The ESPN negotiations will be interesting. As someone who doesn't watch much sports (except for the occasional Cardinal football game), I do hope that the PayTV distributors tell ESPN, we'll pay you 70% of what we were paying you last year, take it or leave it.
Solve the ESPN problem and you solve the PayTV subscriber problem.
Nonsports fans do not want to continue subsidizing the sports fanatic.
I don't want to subsidize your Hallmark or Lifetime, or any of those type of channels either. So I guess we are even.Gloria_Chavez said:It's finally impacted D*. Took awhile, but it was inevitable.
Glance at my signature line.
The real median income continues to decline. Yet, PayTv distributors ask for 7%+ annual rate hikes. Something's gotta give.
The ESPN negotiations will be interesting. As someone who doesn't watch much sports (except for the occasional Cardinal football game), I do hope that the PayTV distributors tell ESPN, we'll pay you 70% of what we were paying you last year, take it or leave it.
Solve the ESPN problem and you solve the PayTV subscriber problem.
Nonsports fans do not want to continue subsidizing the sports fanatic.