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Carl Spock said:
So how is your AMC, sliderbob?

Every carrier goes through disagreements like this. Didn't Dish and Viacom do this same dance back in 2004?
I'd rather lose AMC and the 3 others than the 17-27 DirecTV might lose, in which 17 are off right now.
 

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Carl Spock said:
So how is your AMC, sliderbob?

Every carrier goes through disagreements like this. Didn't Dish and Viacom do this same dance back in 2004?
sliderbob said:
I'd rather lose AMC and the 3 others than the 17-27 DirecTV might lose, in which 17 are off right now.
Don't be celebrating too soon---contracts expire and it could happen here some day
 

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If I have a choice to lose 17 Viacom channels or AMC, I'd take the loss of Viacom in a heartbeat!

If it wasn't for the discussion forums, I would never have known they went down or that the contract was coming up.
 

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Here's the point. Both need to stand their ground so the rubbish stops. Do TV channels know revenue across the board for all consumers is down?
 

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lparsons21 said:
If I have a choice to lose 17 Viacom channels or AMC, I'd take the loss of Viacom in a heartbeat!
And I'd do just the opposite, as would many others, so let's not start that.
 

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And I'd do just the opposite, as would many others, so let's not start that.
OK.

But let's take a different tack. Most of what the Viacom channels offer are available online from a few different sources, some free some pay, most being free. So the loss of Viacom would seem more palatable, imo.

For the kids shows, there are plenty of alternatives and in my experience kids aren't nearly so picky about what they watch, the PQ/AQ of it as long as it is noisy with lots of movement and brilliant color. They only get puckered up when their parents complain about other issues.

Actually while I am a very little ticked at losing channels, I'm actually quite pleased that both D* and E* are taking hard stands at the same time. With any luck, the content providers will get the message.

Thus far, since they don't actually send us a bill, they've been insulated from the consumer of their product by the retransmission companies taking the heat.
 

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Friendly moderator direction...

We have discussed and decided to keep (for now) this thread about DirecTV vs Viacom and the Dish vs AMC thread separate. Comparison and discussion is inevitable, so as long as it can be civil AND both threads are distinctly different (i.e. if the threads meander off-topic and end up being about the other similar thread we might have to re-visit a thread merge in the future) then we can keep these side-by-side in the Dish forum.

For more information relative to this topic:


Dish vs AMC

DirecTV vs Viacom (thread in DirecTV forum)
 

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DirecTV notes that Viacom is asking for a large increase at a time when its ratings are sinking.

"We have absolutely no problem compensating Viacom fairly," Derek Chang, DirecTV executive vice president of content, said in a written statement. "[But] the ratings for many of their main networks have plummeted and much of Viacom's programming can be seen for free online."
http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/11/technology/directv-viacom/?source=cnn_bin

Sound familiar? :)

Did Dish and Direct compare notes?
 

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akw4572 said:
Here's the point. Both need to stand their ground so the rubbish stops. Do TV channels know revenue across the board for all consumers is down?
I'm happy to see DirecTV and Dish taking firm stands against these price increases. Since the Viacom channels show commercials, I don't think that the satellite and cable providers should pay anything to carry them.

-- Roger
 

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they're right...its not wise to jump to new providers and switch. Because Dish could do the channel pull when they come due on their contract. Now that its proven that Viacom wants to flip you upside down, shake you by your ankles and bleed you dry for carriage costs. This is bad for every provider that has a working contract with Viacom content when they come due. As is when Directv comes due for the AMC family of channels I cringe to think!!! there are no winners here..

As a subscriber to D* I want E* to work out a deal with AMC!!!..so when other providers come due they're not nickel & dimed either..

yeah if you have a provider that currently has said content...hooray for you, ha ha I have it and you dont..!! but the clouds are always on the horizon...and rain will fall..it always does..
 

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Can't remember the last time a watched a Viacom channel. Can't imagine a time in the future when I would want to watch a Viacom channel. But, for some having the Viacom channels is very important. Probably why they make chocolate and vanilla ice cream. ;)
 
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