[justlgi]

http://www.cnet.com/1990-7874_1-5108854-5.html

National and Local HD channels: This line is intended to give a true comparison between the various services' HD offerings. It includes all of the national (including premium channels like HBO) and local high-definition channels offered on each service, and specifically excludes pay-per-view channels, RSN networks and exclusives.

DIRECTV - 65
DISH - 68
FIOS - 83
CABLEVISION- 40
COMCAST - 22
TIMEWARNER - 50

 

[cforrest]

Cablevision has more than 40, they have 55 now, they added 15 channels in August! List is messed up.

 

[Doug Brott]

HD Regional Sports Networks: Networks with generally exclusive rights to broadcast the live games of individual sports teams in a particular region. Satellite services offer numerous RSNs, but again only a few are usually available to any particular viewer in any one region--and in general a cable provider will offer a more-complete selection of RSNs to its regional subscribers. The chart differentiates between RSNs available in the NYC area and in other areas.

Here's the biggest area of difference .. I'm interested to know how cable provides a "more complete" selection .. besides anyone can subscribe to the Sports pack and pick these up .. Blackout rules would apply to Cable just as much as they apply to DIRECTV.

Someone's just fudging the numbers to make their point .. not like we haven't seen that before :sure:

 

[LarryFlowers]

The list over there while interesting reading is largely bogus...

The list is based on availability in NEW YORK CITY and has no bearing on the rest of the country... They show FOX NEWS HD as available nationally and it isn't on any system including FIOS.

This count, like most, is a matter of interpretation...

 

[DarinC]

Cablevision has more than 40, they have 55 now, they added 15 channels in August! List is messed up.

Perhaps. But it's at least good to see 3rd parties comparing the providers in a way that is helpful to the consumer. The providers have all pretty much lost all credibility in being able to do their own channel counts.

 

[Doug Brott]

Perhaps. But it's at least good to see 3rd parties comparing the providers in a way that is helpful to the consumer. The providers have all pretty much lost all credibility in being able to do their own channel counts.

I just checked my own area using a 3rd-Party comparision: http://www.whereishd.com/

Over-the-Air: 33 (not in my actual location as I've tried )
Comcast: 42
DIRECTV: 106
DISH: 88

 

[DarinC]

Yes, that one is great, because it is based on your location. It has the same potential for being out of date just like the cnet one, but at least it's an option for comparison's sake.

 

[Steve Robertson]

Who cares who has the most all I want is PQ as far as I am concerned D* has plenty of HD and more to come.

 

[DarinC]

It's not so much "who has the most" as it is "who has what I'm interested in". These charts make that easy to compare without getting mislead by bogus channel counts.

 

[Steve Robertson]

It's not so much "who has the most" as it is "who has what I'm interested in". These charts make that easy to compare without getting mislead by bogus channel counts.

I will give you that I am just tired of commercials and threads claimimg one has more than the other in the end if you are happy wit h your provider who reaklly cares about the # of HD channels

 

[cforrest]

Looks like I was wrong with Cablevision, it has the channels added in August on the list, my bad! Nice list for those in NYC area though, but as pointed out PQ is a big factor. FIOS & D* will beat Cablevision in the HD PQ department IMO! The more HD the better though.

 

[justlgi]

I just checked my own area using a 3rd-Party comparision: http://www.whereishd.com/

Over-the-Air: 33 (not in my actual location as I've tried )
Comcast: 42
DIRECTV: 106
DISH: 88

Did you take these out of that count? whereishd.com is notoriously inaccurate.

80 WCBSDT CBS 49%
81 KCBSDT CBS 51%
82 WNBCDT NBC 59%
83 KNBCDT NBC 44%
86 WABCDT ABC 56%
87 KABCDT ABC 64%
88 WNYWDT FOX 9%
89 KTTVDT FOX 10%

Besides, the point of this count is to show channels most people are interested in ... not out of market RSN that are going to be 24hr infomercials anyway, or PPV ... if you go to the link all of that is listed as well.

National and Local HD channels: This line is intended to give a true comparison between the various services' HD offerings. It includes all of the national (including premium channels like HBO) and local high-definition channels offered on each service, and specifically excludes pay-per-view channels, RSN networks and exclusives

 

[tftc22]

Subtract 1 from D*'s list. They don't actually carry Once Mexico HD, do they? (It is listed on their website, though.)

 

[66stang351]

http://www.cnet.com/1990-7874_1-5108854-5.html

National and Local HD channels: This line is intended to give a true comparison between the various services' HD offerings. It includes all of the national (including premium channels like HBO) and local high-definition channels offered on each service, and specifically excludes pay-per-view channels, RSN networks and exclusives.

DIRECTV - 65
DISH - 68
FIOS - 83
CABLEVISION- 40
COMCAST - 22
TIMEWARNER - 50

Its not even correct for NY...it states that DIRECTV offers 4 HD locals when they offer 6.

 

[Doug Brott]

Besides, the point of this count is to show channels most people are interested in ... not out of market RSN that are going to be 24hr infomercials anyway, or PPV ... if you go to the link all of that is listed as well.

What if I don't care about HBO or Showtime? Can I take them off of the list, too? Heck, maybe I should chuck the TV and just call it zero HD across the board ..

 

[tcusta00]

The list over there while interesting reading is largely bogus...

The list is based on availability in NEW YORK CITY and has no bearing on the rest of the country... They show FOX NEWS HD as available nationally and it isn't on any system including FIOS.

This count, like most, is a matter of interpretation...

Fanboy! :lol:

 

[66stang351]

Oh, and if they are going to drop a line item in for PPV/OnDemand shouldn't they at least get it right...they say 15 and there are 35PPV not including DoD.

I mean how hard can it be to get it right for one market...Locals-wrong...PPV-wrong...just how credible is the rest of it anyway.

 

[dngrant]

Until Verizon is truly a national (not spotty regional) provider, they cannot hold a candle to D*. Sure, NYC is great, but most of the nation does not live in or around NYC.

 

[tcusta00]

Until Verizon is truly a national (not spotty regional) provider, they cannot hold a candle to D*. Sure, NYC is great, but most of the nation does not live in or around NYC.

True! Anyone (with a chainsaw) can get DirecTV. :lol:

 

[justlgi]

What if I don't care about HBO or Showtime? Can I take them off of the list, too? Heck, maybe I should chuck the TV and just call it zero HD across the board ..

At least if I tuned to HBO or Showtime I would have SOMETHING to watch. Try that with an RSN 95% of the time.