[yooper99]

The ad says "DirecTV customers have always enjoyed 100% digital picture. So I don't have to do a thing." (come Feb 2009).

I have never had a digital picture from my SD receivers and neither have you. We get a digital feed to the receiver but not to the TV. ANALOG is all we ever see from any SD receiver. And an analog picture does not yield the same picture as a digital feed processed natively by the TV.

If I have a new TV will there ever be digital feed to the TV without going to an HD receiver?

Terry

 

[Stuart Sweet]

Why certainly. Buy a TV with HDMI and a DIRECTV HD receiver.

I understand your distinction and you are right, but it may be a bit too fine of a point. I think that DIRECTV has always talked about its delivery system, which is 100% digital, as opposed to many cable systems that still use mixed analog/digital systems.

 

[hdtvfan0001]

The ad says "DirecTV customers have always enjoyed 100% digital picture. So I don't have to do a thing." (come Feb 2009).

I have never had a digital picture from my SD receivers and neither have you. We get a digital feed to the receiver but not to the TV. ANALOG is all we ever see from any SD receiver. And an analog picture does not yield the same picture as a digital feed processed natively by the TV.

If I have a new TV will there ever be digital feed to the TV without going to an HD receiver?

Terry

You're confusing Digital and HD...they are not exactly the same...

You can have a Digital SD signal (which DirecTV has supported for years)...

...and you can have a Digitial HD signal.

Therefore, both flavors are included and Digital.

 

[Thaedron]

The ad says "DirecTV customers have always enjoyed 100% digital picture. So I don't have to do a thing." (come Feb 2009).

I have never had a digital picture from my SD receivers and neither have you. We get a digital feed to the receiver but not to the TV. ANALOG is all we ever see from any SD receiver. And an analog picture does not yield the same picture as a digital feed processed natively by the TV.

If I have a new TV will there ever be digital feed to the TV without going to an HD receiver?

Terry

I believe the R22 has an HDMI out which would allow you to send your digitally received SD content to your TV digitally without converting it to an analog signal (composite or S-Video). I think you're splitting hairs as the ad is clearly implying that the reception of content is digital (which it always has been).

Edit: Yep, there it is, HDMI connection on the back of the R22. Here is the R22 First Look Thread.

 

[yooper99]

You're confusing Digital and HD...they are not exactly the same...

You can have a Digital SD signal (which DirecTV has supported for years)...

...and you can have a Digitial HD signal.

Therefore, both flavors are included and Digital.

I most certainly know the difference between Digital and HD.

As I said in my first post, the feed to the dish is digital while the signal to the TV is not digital. The TV picture is most definitely NOT digital. Your point only applies to the downfeed from the satellite. The picture on the TV is processed by the receiver into an analog signal before being sent the TV.

Until DirecTV issues new receivers with digital output, no one will ever get a digital TV picture from any SD receiver. How can a receiver that converts all output to analog send a digital picture??

 

[Tom_S]

I most certainly know the difference between Digital and HD.

As I said in my first post, the feed to the dish is digital while the signal to the TV is not digital. The TV picture is most definitely NOT digital. Your point only applies to the downfeed from the satellite. The picture on the TV is processed by the receiver into an analog signal before being sent the TV.

Until DirecTV issues new receivers with digital output, no one will ever get a digital TV picture from any SD receiver. How can a receiver that converts all output to analog send a digital picture??

Yeah, but what's your point. Basically what DirecTV is saying is that there will be nothing for you to do or worry about.

 

[yooper99]

I believe the R22 has an HDMI out which would allow you to send your digitally received SD content to your TV digitally without converting it to an analog signal (composite or S-Video). I think you're splitting hairs as the ad is clearly implying that the reception of content is digital (which it always has been).

Edit: Yep, there it is, HDMI connection on the back of the R22. Here is the R22 First Look Thread.

Thanks Thaedron for the information about the H22. That's nice to know.

I understand your point about the ad. The exact wording in the ad was, "DirecTV customers have always enjoyed 100% digital picture." I suppose it could be interpreted two ways. When I hear the word picture I think on the TV, not in the receiver brain. Have a good day.

Terry

 

[paulman182]

The image you see with your analog eyes will have to be analog light waves.

By your definition, the image will never be totally digital until we have some kind of digital decoding chips implanted in our heads.

 

[Doug Brott]

I most certainly know the difference between Digital and HD.

As I said in my first post, the feed to the dish is digital while the signal to the TV is not digital. The TV picture is most definitely NOT digital. Your point only applies to the downfeed from the satellite. The picture on the TV is processed by the receiver into an analog signal before being sent the TV.

Until DirecTV issues new receivers with digital output, no one will ever get a digital TV picture from any SD receiver. How can a receiver that converts all output to analog send a digital picture??

Ah, but the whole point of the commercial is so that folks with satellite TV aren't confused and think that they need a new set top box .. Telling them that they don't get a digital signal (or a picture from a digital source) will only serve to misinform most people .. regardless of the actual facts.

In my case, I have Digital HD converted to Analog via Component which is converted to Digital for processing by my TV and then converted back to Analog so that I can actually see it on the LCD .. whew!

 

[grandpaken]

Yeah, but what's your point. Basically what DirecTV is saying is that there will be nothing for you to do or worry about.

What about those people getting their SD locals OTA by hooking an antenna to their D* receivers? They're going to think everything is going to continue working.

 

[yooper99]

Ah, but the whole point of the commercial is so that folks with satellite TV aren't confused and think that they need a new set top box .. Telling them that they don't get a digital signal (or a picture from a digital source) will only serve to misinform most people .. regardless of the actual facts.

In my case, I have Digital HD converted to Analog via Component which is converted to Digital for processing by my TV and then converted back to Analog so that I can actually see it on the LCD .. whew!

Good point, Doug, about the ad's message. I hear that confusion you refer to at work all the time. I figured this site would allow a discussion about the cold facts.

Your LCD setup sounds like you understand what I was talking about originally.

Terry

 

[STEVED21]

What about those people getting their SD locals OTA by hooking an antenna to their D* receivers? They're going to think everything is going to continue working.

But it will. The Directv receivers only receive the OTA DIGITAL signals,HD or SD, not the analog which are the ones diappearing in 2009.

 

[Shades228]

What about those people getting their SD locals OTA by hooking an antenna to their D* receivers? They're going to think everything is going to continue working.

The receiver is a digital tuner. You won't have to buy a converter box as long as the signal for your OTA is going through it.

 

[evan_s]

Given the context of the add I'm fine with the way it's phrased. The Feb2009 switch over is all about the broadcasting method and not about how it's connected to your tv etc. Keep in mind the approved converters for the Government coupon program are require to NOT have HDMI/DVI and only have legacy analog ports on them.

My father in law and mother in law where over a few days back and he was pushing for an HD tv since we have one. He mention the feb 2009 conversion saying they needed one. My mother in law responded that no they didn't because they have Dish it didn't matter. This is the confusion this add is addressed at.

 

[grandpaken]

But it will. The Directv receivers only receive the OTA DIGITAL signals,HD or SD, not the analog which are the ones diappearing in 2009.

Am I missing something? My D11 has a digital OTA tuner? I thought all the SD receivers only have analog tuners.

 

[hdtvfan0001]

Yeah, but what's your point. Basically what DirecTV is saying is that there will be nothing for you to do or worry about.

Yup.

The bottom line is the bottom line.

 

[Doug Brott]

Am I missing something? My D11 has a digital OTA tuner? I thought all the SD receivers only have analog tuners.

As far as I know, there are no DIRECTV receivers with analog over-the-air tuners. If you are sending your antenna cable through your D11 and then to your TV, then you are not using your D11 for tuning the over-the-air channels. You are using your television set for that. The D11 is just acting as an A-B switch so that you don't have to walk up to the TV and manually switch it when you want to go between the D11 (Satellite) and your TV (OTA).

In that case, your SD television set may not be ready and you will either lose access to your over-the-air channels .. but not because of anything DIRECTV did or did not do.

If you receiver your local channels via satellite from DIRECTV (SD or HD), then you have nothing to worry about. They will still come through to your TV set as the D11 will convert the Digital signal to an analog signal that your TV can see.

 

[BattleZone]

Am I missing something? My D11 has a digital OTA tuner? I thought all the SD receivers only have analog tuners.

No SD sat receiver has ANY OTA tuner. They just have a pass-through port.

 

[ChrisPC]

FWIW, I got some E* junk mail the other day. It actually said "Don't let your TV go dark, get Dish now!"

 

[Brent04]

In a way you are getting a digital picture because you basically either get it or you don't. Unlike with an analog picture were you may get a clear picture or a picture with snow or ghosting and the worse the signal the worse the snow. It might not be a direct digital picture to your TV but it is digital.