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DirecTV Winning the HD War??
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With American viewers' appetite for high-definition programming on a steadily picking up pace, and HDTV prices gradually coming down to earth, it's time for the service providers to give those HD-strapped customers something to watch. And although the high-definition race is more a marathon than a sprint, industry analysts see some providers - like DirecTV - clearly out in front of the pack.
According to Kaufman Bros. analyst Todd Mitchell, DirecTV's plan to dominate the HD landscape is finally coming together. With the company launching 25 high-definition markets during the last quarter of 2006, DirecTV will bring its total to 67 regions with HD. Through those 67 markets, Mitchell said, the nation's leading satellite provider will be able to reach nearly three out of every four (74 percent) television viewing households in America.
Plus, DirecTV's new HR20 HD DVR - which has received high praise from industry press and early adopters - is now available in all markets for $299 ($200 after a $99 rebate).
Source: http://www.skyreport.com/
With American viewers' appetite for high-definition programming on a steadily picking up pace, and HDTV prices gradually coming down to earth, it's time for the service providers to give those HD-strapped customers something to watch. And although the high-definition race is more a marathon than a sprint, industry analysts see some providers - like DirecTV - clearly out in front of the pack.
According to Kaufman Bros. analyst Todd Mitchell, DirecTV's plan to dominate the HD landscape is finally coming together. With the company launching 25 high-definition markets during the last quarter of 2006, DirecTV will bring its total to 67 regions with HD. Through those 67 markets, Mitchell said, the nation's leading satellite provider will be able to reach nearly three out of every four (74 percent) television viewing households in America.
Plus, DirecTV's new HR20 HD DVR - which has received high praise from industry press and early adopters - is now available in all markets for $299 ($200 after a $99 rebate).
Source: http://www.skyreport.com/
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Reading that I have wonder who owns Skyreport.com, High priase from early adopters for the HR-20? Not what I'm seeing here.
My suspicion is OTA tuners and more HD nationals are preferred versus HD locals.
Who could even concieve of a businessplan that requires turning off a channel on sundays and not expect aggravated customers. You just took away something they had.
My suspicion is OTA tuners and more HD nationals are preferred versus HD locals.
Who could even concieve of a businessplan that requires turning off a channel on sundays and not expect aggravated customers. You just took away something they had.
To me it sounds like they reprinted a press release sent to them by D*.
The price of the HR20 ($0-$299) is a lot better than the price of the TIVo Series3($799 to buy it + $12.95/month TiVo fee just to use it + cable company fee to rent the cablecards).
It sounds like the people with the Series3 are having the same amount of problems the HR20 people are having. A lot of them are having problems with the cable company telling them they don't support cablecards and the cablecards they bring out not working etc....
It sounds like the people with the Series3 are having the same amount of problems the HR20 people are having. A lot of them are having problems with the cable company telling them they don't support cablecards and the cablecards they bring out not working etc....
You folks with MPEG-4 locals have exactly the same HD offering we have here in Philly - the Big4 plus ESPN/ESPN2/Discover/TNTHD/HDNET/HDNET Movies/UHD, the occasional 95/99 show.
(We don't get an RSN in Philly, so no HD there)
Until D* expands its slate of national HD channels (not that there are a lot of them right now), they'll continue to be a laggard.
(We don't get an RSN in Philly, so no HD there)
Until D* expands its slate of national HD channels (not that there are a lot of them right now), they'll continue to be a laggard.
If DirecTV follows thru on adding the 150 National HD channels, and providing HD locals in 94% of the country, then yes DirecTV will be on top. At the moment compared to Dish and Cable for HD offerings DirecTV is 3rd.
Problem with that is......there currently aren't 150 national HD channels in existence.cybrsurfer said:If DirecTV follows thru on adding the 150 National HD channels, and providing HD locals in 94% of the country, then yes DirecTV will be on top. At the moment compared to Dish and Cable for HD offerings DirecTV is 3rd.
But at least D* will have the capacity for that many at the end of next year.Vinny said:Problem with that is......there currently aren't 150 national HD channels in existence.
I love my HR20. And yes there have been many that have posted the same. This is of course an informational forum. So people who have problems will be posting far more than people without. But if you read alot of the posts most people are generally happy with the HR20. I think I have only seen 2 or 3 posts from people saying they are quitting D* because of the HR20. Is it bug free? No, But in my house it is the best thing since the microwave. :hurah: :lol:TBoneit said:Reading that I have wonder who owns Skyreport.com, High priase from early adopters for the HR-20? Not what I'm seeing here.
They are not winning the war from my vantage point.
They are rapidly shooting themselves in the foot.
The HR20 is a sorry piece of engineering from many perspectives.
I would gladly pay another $1,000 for a TiVo based DVR that handled the MPEG4 streams over having to put up with this POS.
They can't even get basics like FF working, never mind FF with auto calculated jump-backs like a Tivo. That's basic use, umpteen times a day functionality.
Number of HD channels is pathetic.
Maybe next year they will have something. But then again, this is the same company that showed an HD recorder and slave boxes at CES 2005 promising delivery 'this year'. 20 months later, none of the server features exist, and the HD DVR can not reliably record stuff or play it back smoothly.
Good thing I still have my TiVo HR10 and a bunch of other SD TiVo's, otherwise I'd be missing a ton of content with DireTV's current generation boxes.
They are rapidly shooting themselves in the foot.
The HR20 is a sorry piece of engineering from many perspectives.
I would gladly pay another $1,000 for a TiVo based DVR that handled the MPEG4 streams over having to put up with this POS.
They can't even get basics like FF working, never mind FF with auto calculated jump-backs like a Tivo. That's basic use, umpteen times a day functionality.
Number of HD channels is pathetic.
Maybe next year they will have something. But then again, this is the same company that showed an HD recorder and slave boxes at CES 2005 promising delivery 'this year'. 20 months later, none of the server features exist, and the HD DVR can not reliably record stuff or play it back smoothly.
Good thing I still have my TiVo HR10 and a bunch of other SD TiVo's, otherwise I'd be missing a ton of content with DireTV's current generation boxes.
I think the rumors that Fox will start a Voom-like HD package are probably true...at least, when D* makes these predicitions of large numbers of national channels, it is done with that in mind. I'm sure it won't total 100 HD nationals, but it will be a lot more than we now have.
No inside info here, just an observer who is theorizing...
No inside info here, just an observer who is theorizing...
I have to agree with you on that. Even with it's flaws this HR20 is awesome. I own 2 and my parents and siblings each have them in their homes. Now I am the only one who visits this forum so I am sure there are friends of people in here that have the HR20 and have no compleints. What we have in here are the top tier early adopters who want state of the art products and have noble odeas of how the products should work. But there are a lot of non forum peeps out there that actually like the HR20 and this article is prolly talking more about them than the few hundreds in here. IMHOTwosted said:I love my HR20. And yes there have been many that have posted the same. This is of course an informational forum. So people who have problems will be posting far more than people without. But if you read alot of the posts most people are generally happy with the HR20. I think I have only seen 2 or 3 posts from people saying they are quitting D* because of the HR20. Is it bug free? No, But in my house it is the best thing since the microwave. :hurah: :lol:
Never mind that this particular functionality is patented by Tivo....JonFo said:never mind FF with auto calculated jump-backs like a Tivo. That's basic use, umpteen times a day functionality.
See my reply to this thread in the general forum: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=67811
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