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Dish New FCC Filings on Ciel-2 Satellite

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Discussion starter · #8 ·
HDRoberts said:
Here are a few quick and dirty maps I made with ArcGIS. Unfortunetly, I lack the took to turn the points into contours, and it only based on the gain numbers. But it gives you the idea.
Certainly it would be great to have the contours but it would also be interesting to know which TPs are available in which spotbeam. As I have stated elsewhere, I don't think there will be clean lines of demarcation between the Eastern Arc and Western Arc. Obviously the Northeast U.S. will be in the Eastern Arc and the West Coast in the Western Arc but spotbeam availability will determine what Arc the rest of the country will be in. I also think that Dish looked at Ciel-2 as a backup to the spotbeams from E-10 at 110 W.
 
Discussion starter · #12 ·
HDRoberts said:
I think this may be the table you are looking for. That, or an odd coincidence that the transmitters are numbered 1-32. Looks as if TPs 1-16 are for spots, and 18-32 are continental (US and/or Canada), and 17 is flexable. Please note, there is a lot of duplication as things were further divided by uplink beam.
Yes, this is what I was looking for. I hope this isn't too long and perhaps James Long or someone else will present this better but here are the TP # for each spotbeam. Looks like a fair number of single TP spotbeams.

SB01 - 5, 7, 9, 10, 12
SB04 - 8, 10
SB05 - 11, 12
SB06 - 13
SB07 - 12
SB08 - 9
SB09 - 2
SB10 - 13, 14, 15, 16
SB11 - 4, 6
SB12 - 5, 7, 8
SB13 - 2
SB14 - 13, 14, 15, 16
SB15 - 10, 12
SB16 - 1, 3, 5, 7, 9
SB17 - 2
SB18 - 1, 3
SB19 - 4, 6, 15
SB20 - 5, 7
SB21 - 1, 3
SB22 - 9, 11, 13, 15
SB23 - 14, 16
SB24 - 5, 7
SB25 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8
SB26 - 10, 12
SB27 - 14, 16
SB28 - 2
SB29 - 4, 6, 8
SB30 - 10, 12, 17
SB31 - 9, 11
SB32 - 8, 10, 13, 15, 17
SB33 - 4, 6, 9, 11, 12
SB34 - 5, 7
SB35 - 8, 10
SB36 - 9, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16
SB37 - 1, 3
SB38 - 13, 14, 16
SB39 - 5, 7, 15, 17
SB40 - 1, 3, 14, 16
SB41 - 2, 5, 7
SB42 - 9, 11
SB43 - 2, 4, 6, 8
SB44 - 9, 11
SB45 - 3
SB46 - 11
SB47 - 1, 3
SB48 - 10, 12, 17
SB49 - 6, 8
SB50 - 3, 10, 12
SB51 - 14, 16
SB52 - 4, 13, 15
SB53 - 5, 7, 13, 15
SB54 - 2, 4, 6, 8
SB55 - 2, 4, 6, 14, 16
 
Discussion starter · #21 ·
HDRoberts said:
I used the -10dB gain from the "beam" information. That corresponds to the green "dots" on my previous map, which looks like it covers slightly more.
I always interpreted the signal strength maps with -10 dB as being the point at which one should be able to get a reasonable signal with Dish's standard dish i.e., a D500 or D1000. Outside the -10 dB area, a larger dish would probably be needed. In the case of Ciel-2 at 129 W, one may want a separate D500 dish pointed at 129 W outside of the -10dB area. Based on the downlink maps that have been posted for Ciel-2, I don't see the need for a bigger/separate dish for much of the area in the Western Arc.
 
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