[MikeW]

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINN3031959520080731?rpc=44

The article mentions they will have 150 HD Channels by year end, but I find this part interesting...

Denver-based DISH also said it plans to be the first U.S. operator to broadcast in the highest resolution of high definition programming known as 1080p when it launches a raft of subscription packages for customers next month.

1080p technology promises the highest resolution, or best picture quality, for HD programming. DirecTV plans to offer a similar service later this year.


It uses the word "Broadcast" not streaming and says DirecTV will do the same later this year. Is 1080p "broadcast" coming or is this article wrong.

By the way, it says that Dish said this on Thursday...must be an early press release as this is only Wednesday...

 

[phrelin]

Only for Dish Network could an announcement of 150HD channels and 1080p turn into a somewhat negative article.:nono2:

 

[whatchel1]

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINN3031959520080731?rpc=44

The article mentions they will have 150 HD Channels by year end, but I find this part interesting...

Denver-based DISH also said it plans to be the first U.S. operator to broadcast in the highest resolution of high definition programming known as 1080p when it launches a raft of subscription packages for customers next month.

1080p technology promises the highest resolution, or best picture quality, for HD programming. DirecTV plans to offer a similar service later this year.


It uses the word "Broadcast" not streaming and says DirecTV will do the same later this year. Is 1080p "broadcast" coming or is this article wrong.

By the way, it says that Dish said this on Thursday...must be an early press release as this is only Wednesday...

It is my understanding that the 722k that is coming out will be able to output 1080p.

 

[cg7879]

Hmmm.... interesting. I didn't know Dish was going to broadcast in 1080p. Yet another case of the public knowing what's going on before employees...

 

[razorbackfan]

DISH added 30,000 new subscribers in the first quarter compared to DirecTV which gained 275,000.

Five analysts polled by Reuters forecast DISH would add 72,000 subscribers compared with DirecTV adding 122,000 in the second quarter which ended June 30.

Wow, that's interesting.

 

[FastNOC]

wait, a 722k? From the article I read he made it seem like the ViP722 that is out will be able to do 1080p wth the software upgrade. am i reading it wrong?

Current DISH Network customers with MPEG-4 HD and HD DVR receivers are being automatically upgraded and will have their systems "turbo-charged" by early August with all the features and benefits of TurboHD. DISH Network customers looking to add the industry's best HD experience can get a "turbo-charged" HD package for as little as $10 more per month.

Coming from a guy with a 52 and 60 inch LCD this is a HUGE deal.

The sucky part is the new hd channels are all movie stuff which I rarely watch. but that's OK. no arguments here.

 

[JohnH]

Duh. It's VOD, which means download to the hard drive and then play it in 1080p. "Broadcasting" in anything close to 1080p would be quite expensive as far as bandwidth goes.

 

[kucharsk]

Great - VOD for a movie that's been out on Blu-Ray for months and channels no one cares about like Planet Green HD.

But AMC HD or Speed HD? Nah.

 

[davcole]

Interesting!!

 

[jacmyoung]

I took it as saying the 622s will also be able to do VOD and 1080p.

 

[Bobby H]

I'd like to know what kind of video and audio bit rates will be used. There's more to good quality 1080p HD video than just 1080p itself.

The 24 hour viewing period for VOD movies is another deal breaker for me. I live within a mile of two video stores, both of which rent Blu-ray Disc movies. One has 7 day BD rentals for $5.99 and gives customers a $2 credit for returning movies the next day. The other store has 5 day BD rentals for $4.99.

Duh. It's VOD, which means download to the hard drive and then play it in 1080p. "Broadcasting" in anything close to 1080p would be quite expensive as far as bandwidth goes.

1080p video shouldn't use anymore bandwidth than 1080i programming. The major problem is the 60Hz issue. Every North American broadcast has to be in 60Hz of some type. For HD that means 720p/60 or 1080i/60. Broadcasting equipment isn't built to handle 1080p/30 or 1080p/24.

 

[jacmyoung]

I'd like to know what kind of video and audio bit rates will be used. There's more to good quality 1080p HD video than just 1080p itself.

The 24 hour viewing period for VOD movies is another deal breaker for me. I live within a mile of two video stores, both of which rent Blu-ray Disc movies. One has 7 day BD rentals for $5.99 and gives customers a $2 credit for returning movies the next day. The other store has 5 day BD rentals for $4.99.

1080p video shouldn't use anymore bandwidth than 1080i programming. The major problem is the 60Hz issue. Every North American broadcast has to be in 60Hz of some type. For HD that means 720p/60 or 1080i/60. Broadcasting equipment isn't built to handle 1080p/30 or 1080p/24.

Good point on the 24-hr limitation, not to mention if it can even be archived off the external HD.

But a VOD download is not your usual "broadcast", in theory one can download a Bluray file for playback, the only thing needed is that the HDDVR can handle it.

 

[James Long]

Duh. It's VOD, which means download to the hard drive and then play it in 1080p. "Broadcasting" in anything close to 1080p would be quite expensive as far as bandwidth goes.

Good catch ... the more accurate way of putting it is "deliver" not "broadcast". DISH will deliver 1080p content to their HD DVRs.

 

[Taco Lover]

Good catch ... the more accurate way of putting it is "deliver" not "broadcast". DISH will deliver 1080p content to their HD DVRs.

Isn't there dedicated space on the HDDVR hard drive for VOD? I remember when the 722 came out, not only did it say more recording space, but more dedicated space for VOD. So, they probably send it (I Am Legend or anything else) to the dedicated space, and when you "order" it, it becomes available, just like that.

 

[whatchel1]

wait, a 722k? From the article I read he made it seem like the ViP722 that is out will be able to do 1080p wth the software upgrade. am i reading it wrong?

Coming from a guy with a 52 and 60 inch LCD this is a HUGE deal.

The sucky part is the new hd channels are all movie stuff which I rarely watch. but that's OK. no arguments here.

I found out today in the more detailed release that it is a software upgrade to all VIP receivers. The 722k will be coming out "soon" and have 2 sat tuners and can have 2 modules added to have 2 OTA tuners.

 

[James Long]

Isn't there dedicated space on the HDDVR hard drive for VOD? I remember when the 722 came out, not only did it say more recording space, but more dedicated space for VOD. So, they probably send it (I Am Legend or anything else) to the dedicated space, and when you "order" it, it becomes available, just like that.

VOD is available immediately ... on demand ... the dedicated space is filled with programming while your receiver is in 'standby' at night. You won't know what is there until it shows up in a VOD listing - so you won't be able to order it until it is available. (It becomes available, and then you order it.)

DISHOnline is the internet version where you actually can request content and have it delivered. But VOD is the satellite forced recording service ...

 

[Taco Lover]

Got it.

 

[ZBoomer]

Man, this is cool... except my VIP622 won't sync via HDMI to my brand new Pioneer Plasma, lol. I've been running component, and I bet it won't do 1080p that way.

Bummer.

 

[kal915]

Great - VOD for a movie that's been out on Blu-Ray for months and channels no one cares about like Planet Green HD.

But AMC HD or Speed HD? Nah.

Yeah, but compared to buying a $400 Blu-ray player, i'll take it

 

[zedug]

I've been running component, and I bet it won't do 1080p that way.

It will.