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Looks like NPS is starting to get it together. They made absolutely no mention of E* when I called today. The rep took my name and address and said they would call back. Said the system to verify address was not available and there would be a delay in verifying my address. Was told if I qualified they would need my smart card numbers. Was told it would take 7-10 days.
 

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I was on the website this evening. There is an RV/Trucker waiver to download and FAX in. They bundle the networks so you receive Atlanta and San Francisco for each network subscribed too. $9.00 for all eight per month. Hope this works out, may FAX it out in the morning and see what happens :hurah: Chris
Sent RV Waiver FAX in Thursday (12/7) Received call Monday (12/11) to confirm information and now have all feeds from both coasts. :D Fast service, probably a lot easier to qualify an RV rather than a street address. Boy, I hope this ends the situation for me.:grin: Chris
 

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Sent RV Waiver FAX in Thursday (12/7) Received call Monday (12/11) to confirm information and now have all feeds from both coasts. :D Fast service, probably a lot easier to qualify an RV rather than a street address. Boy, I hope this ends the situation for me.:grin: Chris
I sent in a fax on 12/4, haven't heard anything. How is the PQ?

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Sent RV Waiver FAX in Thursday (12/7) Received call Monday (12/11) to confirm information and now have all feeds from both coasts. :D Fast service, probably a lot easier to qualify an RV rather than a street address. Boy, I hope this ends the situation for me.:grin: Chris
Are they available on ALL your receivers or just one?
 

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I sent in a fax on 12/4, haven't heard anything. How is the PQ?

Mitch
Mitch....Picture quality is good, a couple of the east coast feeds appear to be a little dark. There has been posts complaining about quality, but looks OK to me.

Buddawood...I am a fulltime RVer and have only one receiver in the rig and had an RV Waiver previously so I do not know if that speeded up my approval or I just cut into line ahead of you!! :sure:
 

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Kudos to NPS!

They called me on 12/12/06 left a message that they needed my smart card numbers. I called them back and was told that I qualifed for all four nets. I gave them my recvr info and my CC number and had ATL/SFO in my guide in about 10 mins. They also responded to my wifes email and we now have DNS on an inactive E* recvr. In other words they sold DNS to my wife who is NOT an E* subscriber.
 

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Thnks Rich!

My biggest concern was that NPS was not going to sell to those of us who have LiL, but that is not the case. Now I am going to keep my fingers crossed that the rough startup that NPS had will not harm them in the Florida court. It would appear that in the begining they were only using E* supplied lists. That makes them to appear to be running a joint venture. Noew that they are (or appear to) no longer be using those E* lists maybe things wil settledown. I doubt it because the last thing the broadcasters want is for me to get DNS.
 

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Kudos to NPS!

They called me on 12/12/06 left a message that they needed my smart card numbers. I called them back and was told that I qualifed for all four nets. I gave them my recvr info and my CC number and had ATL/SFO in my guide in about 10 mins. They also responded to my wifes email and we now have DNS on an inactive E* recvr. In other words they sold DNS to my wife who is NOT an E* subscriber.
Out of curiosity, in what part of the country do you live? I ask as I am surprised addresses in W. Lafayette, IN are being reported as ineligible for DNS although they are unserved by E* LiL service. My former service address apparently does not qualify for DNS and I must locate a part of the country for a move.
 

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Out of curiosity, in what part of the country do you live? I ask as I am surprised addresses in W. Lafayette, IN are being reported as ineligible for DNS although they are unserved by E* LiL service. My former service address apparently does not qualify for DNS and I must locate a part of the country for a move.
Doesn't matter if you can get locals from anyone when trying to get DNS from NPS. Only matters if you can get them OTA (or what the law considers OTA).

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I just received this e-mail from Dish.
GREAT NEWS FOR RV OWNERS!
DISTANT NETWORK CHANNELS AVAILABLE USING EXISTING DISH NETWORK SATELLITE EQUIPMENT

Dear ,

Great News for RV Owners! We are pleased to inform you that All American Direct has been approved to offer distant ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX network channels to eligible DISH Network customers using existing DISH Network satellite equipment. You may be able to receive Atlanta and San Francisco distant network channels from All American Direct using your existing DISH network satellite equipment!

Please call All American Direct at 1-800-909-9677 or visit their website www.mydistantnetworks.com to see if you qualify. All American Direct can assist you in the approval process.

Thank you for being a loyal DISH Network customer.

I wonder if they activate one or all receivers like Dish did?
 

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Ok, so bring me up to date. If a E* customer had DNS (let's assume all four) on the basis of white area, why would he not qualify via NPS? I ran a query for my cousin (had Chicago DNS pre-Dec 1; he lives in the sticks). NPS says he's not eligible. What gives?
 

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The reason Dish lost distant nets is because they were rather "loose" with the rules. Perhaps NPS is being more strict with the rules and not turning on ANY that could be controversial. I would think that if Decisionmark gave the ok that NPS would turn them on though.
 

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Ok, so bring me up to date. If a E* customer had DNS (let's assume all four) on the basis of white area, why would he not qualify via NPS? I ran a query for my cousin (had Chicago DNS pre-Dec 1; he lives in the sticks). NPS says he's not eligible. What gives?
Ifyou are using the web site (at the time of this posting) it NOT qualifiying by address. You need to call 800 909 9677 and speak to a live rep. They will ask your address and will tell you in a matter of mins if the address you gave them qualifed. THAT info is coming from Decisionmark. Call them and give them an address in zip 31501 you will qualify for all for nets. And E* has LiL in that zip.

It would behoove AAD to update the website to qualify by the customer address at mydistants.com. It looks like they are still on the same setup from 12/1

I just did my info on the mydistants websit and it says I do not qualify at this time. The thing is they qualifed ovet the phone and I already recv DNS from them. As I posted a copule of days ago My wife got DNS from Them using our other hoiuse in 31501 and my wife is not an E* sub. THe revicer she activated was an old 3900 that we deactivated last year.

So AAD will qualify based on deciosonm mark live over the phone just not on the web yet.
 

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Ok, so NPS is providing DNS using E*'s equipment and system. They are an independent company not in cahoots with E*. Questions:

1. Does this mean I don't have to be a E* subscriber (of some sort) to subscribe to NPS-DNS?

2. Does this mean the LIL status of my DMA vis a vis E* is totally irrelevant?

3. If I have a E* system and am qualified can I get NPS-DNS and only NPS-DNS?

4. Can NPS sell a compatible non-E* DBS system?

5. Since channel authorizations must be sent does NPS have access to E*'s system or does E* still have to complete the authorizations (in other words, do you have to deal with two different call centers?).

6. What are the packages/prices that NPS is offering and are there any geographical restrictions (e.g. NY in the East, LA in the West)?

Thank you for your assistance.
 

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Ok, so NPS is providing DNS using E*'s equipment and system. They are an independent company not in cahoots with E*. Questions:

1. Does this mean I don't have to be a E* subscriber (of some sort) to subscribe to NPS-DNS?

2. Does this mean the LIL status of my DMA vis a vis E* is totally irrelevant?

3. If I have a E* system and am qualified can I get NPS-DNS and only NPS-DNS?

4. Can NPS sell a compatible non-E* DBS system?

5. Since channel authorizations must be sent does NPS have access to E*'s system or does E* still have to complete the authorizations (in other words, do you have to deal with two different call centers?).

6. What are the packages/prices that NPS is offering and are there any geographical restrictions (e.g. NY in the East, LA in the West)?

Thank you for your assistance.
1) See cj9788's post -- his wife is NOT an E* sub and activated a deactivated receiver.

2) Again, see cj9788's post -- the ZIP code he used for both activations receives E* LIL.

3) On your E* equipment, yes, only NPS provided DNS.

4) Call NPS, not sure on that one.

5) From what I've read, the consumer does not have to deal with a 2nd call center. Once NPS has your receiver information, the channels are usually active within minutes. How exactly they are authorizing the receiver is unknown, but I'm assuming it's similar to how SkyAngel authorizes? Although I have no idea how SkyAngel authorizes, either. :)

6) Atlanta and San Francisco are the channel markets offered. $2.50 per network (and you get both ATL/SF) or $9 for all 4 last I heard.

I figured you would have had all this info by now. :)
 

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5) From what I've read, the consumer does not have to deal with a 2nd call center. Once NPS has your receiver information, the channels are usually active within minutes. How exactly they are authorizing the receiver is unknown, but I'm assuming it's similar to how SkyAngel authorizes? Although I have no idea how SkyAngel authorizes, either. :)
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If I were doing it, I'd probably set up a formatted email with the r/s numbers and what package to activate. The interface from NPS to E* could be entirely automated. Even E*'s activation system could be automated.
 

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Ok, so NPS is providing DNS using E*'s equipment and system. They are an independent company not in cahoots with E*. Questions:

1. Does this mean I don't have to be a E* subscriber (of some sort) to subscribe to NPS-DNS?

2. Does this mean the LIL status of my DMA vis a vis E* is totally irrelevant?

3. If I have a E* system and am qualified can I get NPS-DNS and only NPS-DNS?

4. Can NPS sell a compatible non-E* DBS system?

5. Since channel authorizations must be sent does NPS have access to E*'s system or does E* still have to complete the authorizations (in other words, do you have to deal with two different call centers?).

6. What are the packages/prices that NPS is offering and are there any geographical restrictions (e.g. NY in the East, LA in the West)?

Thank you for your assistance.
1. Apparently there are reports of getting a Dish receiver activated only to get these distants.

2. Getting or not getting locals or being able to get or not get locals has no effect on getting NPS distants. That's the law. NPS does not provide locals so can provide distants to anyone in a white area, or has an RV.

3. No. If another company comes along and leases space from Dish they too can provide distants and you could get distants from them also. However, the law allows only two distant channels per network per household.

4. They already do.

5. You only need call NPS, not both center.

6. There are no restrictions - the earlier time restriction does not apply to SD signals. The package is San Francisco and Atlanta. I believe you must get both East and West as a package for each network you want. Four networks (8 Channels) costs around $10.00 per month.
 
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