I believe you would have to change from the 5 lnb to the 3 lnb module. I don't think you can tell it to just ignore the two missing satellites.
Do I really need the 119 degree satellite?
Trees are beginning to block the 119 degree satellite, but do I really need it? Both of my HR21-700s have AM21s connected to them, so I don't need to receive local channels from satellite. The trees are very tall in my back yard and there is no way to get anything back there to trim them. The signal strengths on 101 and 110 are all above 94. The signal strengths on 99 and 103 are all above 82, so I know my dish is alligned properly. the signal strengths on the 119 satellite has now mostly dropped to the low 70s.
My neighbor just had a new dish installed that does not have an lnb for 119. So do I really need to see that sattelite? Should I have the new dish installed?
My neighbor just had a new dish installed that does not have an lnb for 119. So do I really need to see that sattelite? Should I have the new dish installed?
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Either of these should work:
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...aKu-Slim-Line-LNB-(SL3)&c=DIRECTV Dishes&sku=
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...itch-(SL3SWM)&c=DIRECTV Dishes&sku=8546300073
Of course where you get them is up to you.
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...aKu-Slim-Line-LNB-(SL3)&c=DIRECTV Dishes&sku=
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...itch-(SL3SWM)&c=DIRECTV Dishes&sku=8546300073
Of course where you get them is up to you.
If the OP is on a SWiM system, he can change the SAT setup to a Slimline3 dish and it should work. On a legacy system, you will lose guide data at some point if 119 is blocked. Changing the LNB to a SL3 is probably the best way to correct that.Scott Kocourek said:I believe you would have to change from the 5 lnb to the 3 lnb module. I don't think you can tell it to just ignore the two missing satellites.
That's good to know, thanks!Go Beavs said:If the OP is on a SWiM system, he can change the SAT setup to a Slimline3 dish and it should work. On a legacy system, you will lose guide data at some point if 119 is blocked. Changing the LNB to a SL3 is probably the best way to correct that.
Is there a difference in the Dish or just the LNBs between a 5 and a 3?
Just LNBs.
However, I thought that the SWM LNBs were smart enough that you can't tell it you have a SL3 instead of an SL5 like GoBeavs posted?
However, I thought that the SWM LNBs were smart enough that you can't tell it you have a SL3 instead of an SL5 like GoBeavs posted?
Just curious. D* switched my LNB from 5 to 3 and did not change the dish or alignment. D* tech said I would loose the foreign language channels.Beerstalker said:Just LNBs.
However, I thought that the SWM LNBs were smart enough that you can't tell it you have a SL3 instead of an SL5 like GoBeavs posted?
Same here. I lost the channels in the 400-499 range (foreign language), and several music channels that I can do without. The dish remained the same, but the technician re-aligned the satellite (or checked its allignment, I should say).allenn said:Just curious. D* switched my LNB from 5 to 3 and did not change the dish or alignment. D* tech said I would loose the foreign language channels.
I made a list of the music channels on 119:
SONIC 807 SonicTap: Rat Pack
SONIC 815 SonicTap: Holidays & Happenings
SONIC 824 SonicTap: Groove Lounge
SONIC 852 SonicTap: Jazz
SONIC 853 SonicTap: Metro Blend
SONIC 855 SonicTap: Great Standards
SONIC 861 SonicTap: PUMP!
SONIC 865 SonicTap: Piano
SONIC 870 SonicTap: Fiesta Tropical
SONIC 873 SonicTap: Regional Mexican
SONIC 876 SonicTap: Mariachi
SONIC 877 SonicTap: Carnaval Brasileiro
SONIC 880 SonicTap: Familiar Favorites
SONIC 881 SonicTap: Italian Bistro Blend
SONIC 882 SonicTap: Italian Contemporary
SONIC 883 SonicTap: Irish
SONIC 884 SonicTap: Tranquility
SONIC 9560 SonicTap: Tranquility 9560
SONIC 9561 SonicTap: Rat Pack 9561
SONIC 9562 SonicTap: Great Standards 9562
SONIC 9563 SonicTap: Groove Lounge 9563
SONIC 9564 SonicTap: Familiar Fav. 9564
SONIC 9565 SonicTap: Irish 9565
SONIC 9566 SonicTap: PUMP! 9566
SONIC 9567 SonicTap: Holidays 9567
SONIC 9568 SonicTap: Metro Blend 9568
SONIC 9569 SonicTap: Italian Bistro 9569
SONIC 9572 SonicTap: Jazz 9572
SONIC 9573 SonicTap: Italian Contemp 9573
SONIC 9574 SonicTap: Piano 9574
Other channels lost:
219 NOW NOW Network
366 JLTV Jewish Life TV
368 HOPE Hope Channel
401 Aqui AQUI Network
403 UNIw Univision West
405 MEGAHD Mega HD
405 MEGA SBS Mega
406 TELe Telemundo East
407 TELw Telemundo West
408 TFT Telefutura DNS
408 TFTwHD Telefutura West HD
409 TVZL TV Venezuela
410 mun2 MUN2
411 TLFI Telefe
412 MEXI Mexicanal
413 DSCE Discovery en Espanol
414 WAPA WAPA
415 RMTV Regional Music TV
416 TVCO TV Colombia
417 CARA Caracol TV
418 NTN NTN Colombia
419 CNNE CNN En Espanol
420 MXTV TV Mexico
421 *UTIL Fox Utilisima
422 CIES Cine Estelar
423 CILA Cine Latino
424 CINO Cine Nostalgia
425 FOXD FOX Deportes
427 TYC TyC Sports
428 CATV Centro America TV
429 TLCN Telecentro
430 LTV Latinoamerica Television
431 PMTV Peru Magico
432 ESPD ESPN Deportes
433 FOOT Foot School TV
434 DOMN TV Dominicana
436 DFAM Discovery Familia
437 TVCH TV Chile Int'l
438 ECUA Ecuavisa
439 PERU Canal Sur Peru
440 V_Me V_Me
441 AZA Azteca America DNS
442 AZM Azteca Mexico
443 HISE History en Espanol
444 PASN Pasiones
445 MTV3 MTV Tres
446 MEX Mexico 22
447 ONCE ONCE_TV
448 ENLC Enlace
449 HITN HITN
450 TVB1 TVB1
451 TVB2 TVB2
452 TVBS TVBS
453 TVBE TVB1 Entertainment
454 CTV4 CCTV_4
455 TSCV Tai Seng Entertainment
460 TVE TVE Internacional
511 HBOL HBO Latino
577 BSN Anheuser Busch Private Network
585 PTVE Playboy en Espanol Monthly Offer
586 PTVE Playboy en Espanol
624 FOXD FOX Deportes 624
I'm not certain of this as I don't have a SWiM LNB. The receiver may complain about having the wrong SAT setting if you try to change it.Beerstalker said:Just LNBs.
However, I thought that the SWM LNBs were smart enough that you can't tell it you have a SL3 instead of an SL5 like GoBeavs posted?
My main point was that when using a SWiM system, the guide data always comes from the 101 SAT, so blocking the 119 will not affect the guide. Changing the SAT setup will simply remove any channels in the guide that come off 119 and 110 SATs.
We discussed the issue, see here http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=3026052&postcount=10
No guide coming from 110W sat !
BTW, all HD boxes has 'hidden' additional legacy DSS tuner, dedicated to receive system info, EPG and such data; disadvantage of design the DTV boxes (not SWiM) is re-using same coax what is driven by user's request to play channels; so the hidden tuner should adapt to already selected sats; good thing is Ka sats not overlap old freqs 950-1450 MHz where the tuner is getting system data.
No guide coming from 110W sat !
BTW, all HD boxes has 'hidden' additional legacy DSS tuner, dedicated to receive system info, EPG and such data; disadvantage of design the DTV boxes (not SWiM) is re-using same coax what is driven by user's request to play channels; so the hidden tuner should adapt to already selected sats; good thing is Ka sats not overlap old freqs 950-1450 MHz where the tuner is getting system data.
I've been doing that for a couple of years ever since the 110/119 connections on my sidecar LNB died.Go Beavs said:If the OP is on a SWiM system, he can change the SAT setup to a Slimline3 dish and it should work.
I don't have a SWiM system. I have a 5 LNB slimline dish connected to a Zinwell WB68 Multi switch. I know that someday soon, the trees will make it impossible to see the 119 degree satellite, so I need to decide what action to take.
If someday I might upgrade to a HR34, will I then need a SWiM dish? If I switch to a SWiM dish, will my HR10-250 still work? What happens to the Zinwell WB68 multi switch if I switch to SWiM, does it need to be replaced? Would the HR34 work if I just upgrade my existing dish with the Slimline3 LNB?
If someday I might upgrade to a HR34, will I then need a SWiM dish? If I switch to a SWiM dish, will my HR10-250 still work? What happens to the Zinwell WB68 multi switch if I switch to SWiM, does it need to be replaced? Would the HR34 work if I just upgrade my existing dish with the Slimline3 LNB?
Good stuff here: http://hr20.dbstalk.com/docs/Dish, Multiswitch and Cable FAQ.pdf
and here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=200024
The HR 34 is SWiM only, you can either use a SWiM lnb (8 tuner max) or standard lnb with a SWiM-8 or SWiM-16 if you need that many tuners.
The 34 will not work directly with a regular 3lnb module. I don't know if the HR10-250 is SWiM capable or not, it may say right at the satellite input.
and here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=200024
The HR 34 is SWiM only, you can either use a SWiM lnb (8 tuner max) or standard lnb with a SWiM-8 or SWiM-16 if you need that many tuners.
The 34 will not work directly with a regular 3lnb module. I don't know if the HR10-250 is SWiM capable or not, it may say right at the satellite input.
The HR10 is not SWiM capable.
Mike
Mike
The SWiMLNB "tells" the receiver what it is [3 or 5], while the SWM8 & -16 doesn't.Go Beavs said:I'm not certain of this as I don't have a SWiM LNB. The receiver may complain about having the wrong SAT setting if you try to change it.
Ahh, thanks! So what you're saying is, with a SWiM LNB, you cannot change the dish type in the SAT setup, right?veryoldschool said:The SWiMLNB "tells" the receiver what it is [3 or 5], while the SWM8 & -16 doesn't.
Right, the option is grayed out.Go Beavs said:Ahh, thanks! So what you're saying is, with a SWiM LNB, you cannot change the dish type in the SAT setup, right?
Though if the OP chooses to upgrade to SWiM by the external module approach it has legacy ports which will permit him to keep the HR10-250 in his setup.Mike Bertelson said:The HR10 is not SWiM capable.
Mike
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