The HR20-700 has a 300 GB drive. The HR21s have a 320 GB drive. The HR22 has a 500 GB drive.
Drive size on HR21-100
I just replaced an HR20-700 and an R15 with 2 HR21-100's. I have noticed that there seems to be more space on the HR21-100 than was on the HR20-700. We rarely get below 80% available while on the 700 we were running well below 60% most of the time. We have several HD movies including "The Bucket List" along with our normal load of series stuff and are still at 85% available, so I was wondering if the HR21 has a larger HD?
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Thanks! Amazing what the extra 20Gb provides...bobnielsen said:The HR20-700 has a 300 GB drive. The HR21s have a 320 GB drive. The HR22 has a 500 GB drive.
You are probably recording more on MPEG4 channels instead of the MPEG2 channels. A program recorded off of a MPEG4 channel takes up less space than the same program recorded off of it's MPEG2 counter part.Shardin said:Thanks! Amazing what the extra 20Gb provides...
The dif between a 300 and a 320 even in MPEG-4 HD would be about 4-5 hours of content.
If you are seeing a LOT more space than you did before it could also be due to stuff clogging up the old drive that is not visible, IOW, old deleted shows that for whatever reason do not return their capacity back into the pool of reserve capacity even though the listings do go away. It happens.
If you are seeing a LOT more space than you did before it could also be due to stuff clogging up the old drive that is not visible, IOW, old deleted shows that for whatever reason do not return their capacity back into the pool of reserve capacity even though the listings do go away. It happens.
I posted this a little while back & got no response on my post on the same issue. My previous HR20 reported approximately 2% for a MPEG4 HD hr...and .5%for each SD hr (right on target for the 200 hrs stated SD capacity) My replacement HR21-200 is more like 1.5-1.7% for each MPEG4 hr - if the estimator is correct it "appears" that this new unit has a least 15%-20% more HD space -which would be somewhere between 50-75 meg more drive space available (based on the original 250 Gig available for recording) - so is it possible that the new HR21's may have 400 Gig HD's ?? (I am pretty sure my HR20-700 had a 320 Gig) or is it just not calculating free space right - this could be an issue at low capacity
I think it's more likely, as was said before, that there was some corruption on your old drive. I've seen no evidence of HR20s calculating space incorrectly.
Early HR20-700 came with 300 GB drives.
HR20-100 started with 320 GB.
HR20-100 started with 320 GB.
To clarify, the changeover to 320GB drives was inline, in other words, it happened on all assembly lines at about the same time. Some HR20s did come with 320GB drives.
"Hence early".Stuart Sweet said:To clarify, the changeover to 320GB drives was inline, in other words, it happened on all assembly lines at about the same time. Some HR20s did come with 320GB drives.
If you were saving programs from a long time back, what is most likely the case on the HR20-700 is that there is a runaway program. This was a problem some time ago, but is not longer a problem. The problem was that a problem may record hours longer than it was supposed to .. all the while using up the HDD .. One of your programs may fall into this category and if you were to actually delete it, then instead of getting a 3% return on your HDD, you may get a 20% return on your HDD making up the difference in what you are seeing.
Like I said, though, this particular problem has been fixed, but there is no way to undo old programs other than by deleting them .. and if you're normally at 60% anyway, then you don't have a real need for deleting programs that you are saving.
Like I said, though, this particular problem has been fixed, but there is no way to undo old programs other than by deleting them .. and if you're normally at 60% anyway, then you don't have a real need for deleting programs that you are saving.
"Also" doesn't each program use slightly different amount of space, depending on content?
9.09% more useable storage to be specific.Shardin said:Amazing what the extra 20Gb provides...
That amount of specificity is inconsistent with the variables introduced by losses from formatting, differing bit rates for each program, and the amount of reserved space on each drive.
While your number may be accurate in the abstract, by failing to take these variables into account you misrepresent the actual gain that could be expected from such a drive swap.
While your number may be accurate in the abstract, by failing to take these variables into account you misrepresent the actual gain that could be expected from such a drive swap.
What he said.Stuart Sweet said:That amount of specificity is inconsistent with the variables introduced by losses from formatting, differing bit rates for each program, and the amount of reserved space on each drive.
While your number may be accurate in the abstract, by failing to take these variables into account you misrepresent the actual gain that could be expected from such a drive swap.
Based on the hr's of MPEG4 HD I presently have on my HR21-200 and the "free" space it estimates I have - I "should" be able to record approx 70 hrs of MPEG4 HD programs - on my HR20-700 that was always in the 50 hr range (the stated amount).
I understand the differences in the amount of space each individual MPEG4 stream will use - this is based on 20 months of use with my old HR20 -each hr of MPEG4 was "approx" 2% (some more some less) but the average was 2% (50 hrs +/-) on my new HR21 it is approx 1.5 % per hr. So, something has changed - HDrive space, cluster size, etc..................or the HR21 is calculating free space incorrectly.
I understand the differences in the amount of space each individual MPEG4 stream will use - this is based on 20 months of use with my old HR20 -each hr of MPEG4 was "approx" 2% (some more some less) but the average was 2% (50 hrs +/-) on my new HR21 it is approx 1.5 % per hr. So, something has changed - HDrive space, cluster size, etc..................or the HR21 is calculating free space incorrectly.
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