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I have been using TIVO for 8 years now. First w/ DirecTV then w/ local cable company using cable cards. I am so fed up w/ cable company. Just tonight I realized all HD (except locals) are gone and they said it is because of a cable card issue and they are working on developing a new card so it won't be fixed for a long time. And, they still want my $20 extra per month for the HD channels!

I think going to Dishnetwork is my only solution, as it is about $30/mo cheaper then Directv. I know I could use my TIVO box w/ Dish but I don't want to mess around with two boxes, so I have some questions on Dish's HD-DVR if someone could please help me.......

I read online elsewhere complaints about watching a recorded show, then going to live TV then going back to the recorded show and the show started from the beginning so it didn't remember where you were. Does it still do this or was that fixed in a software upgrade?

Am I able to type in a TV show title and have it automically find me that show and setup a pass to record even though I don't know what channel/day/time it is on? Same w/ keyword search? With the DVR the cable co tried to give me, I could only record a show if I knew what day and time it was on, when I never knew that. I had to go through a guide, so I'm just scared all are like the piece of crap they had. I need something "smarter" then that.

Thanks for your help in advance!
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If you are watching a recorded show and change the channel it goes to live TV then hit the dvr button to go back to the recorded show you have the option to resume which will start it back where you left off at or you can pick start over which starts it back at the beginning. As for the keyword search it works precisely like you think that it should.
Great, thanks for your help. It might sound strange about the whole resume or not think, but I usually watch a half hour here and half hour there of TV and then pick up another day.
Oh, I totally understand, I do the same thing myself sometimes.
Also, TIVO is NOT an option with Dish service.
Tivo is not sold by dish, but it is an option from TiVo. We use one with an old 301.

What you will find is that the 722 is not as feature rich as TiVo, but has the capability. What I mean, is that TiVo gives you a scrolling list as you do the search. With dish, it's takes more remote clicks and when it returns nothing, you wonder if you did the keyword right. I like the scrolling match list better so I know somethign is being found!

However, the 722 has a many times faster response to remote clicks than a series 2 TiVo.
jkane - I did not know you could use TIVO with satellite. Everything I have read says TIVO will not work with satellite service. Do you have to do a work around or does the TIVOI work out of the box with your Dish box?
nls721 said:
I read online elsewhere complaints about watching a recorded show, then going to live TV then going back to the recorded show and the show started from the beginning so it didn't remember where you were. Does it still do this or was that fixed in a software upgrade?
If you are watching a show that is still recording, the DRV will NOT remember where you are if you stop watching. When the recording is finished, your only choice will be to start over. If the show you are watching has already finished recording, or finishes recording while you are still watching, then you will have the choices to start over or resume.

I think that's the complaint you've seen. I don't expect there to be a fix to this, but with 300x fast forward speed, it's usually not a big problem. :)
dbrakob said:
jkane - I did not know you could use TIVO with satellite. Everything I have read says TIVO will not work with satellite service. Do you have to do a work around or does the TIVOI work out of the box with your Dish box?
Standalone TiVos can be used with a basic standard-def Dish or DirecTV receiver, but it is clunky at best. Unlike an integrated DVR, a standalone TiVo has to do an analog capture of the analog signal the sat box creates, and must then re-digitize and compress the signal, resulting in quality loss (which can be adjusted; more quality means more hard drive space used). Changing channels and navigating the menus is painfully slow due to the delay between the DVR and the receiver, and the recording loop. IMO, it's only acceptable if you ONLY watch pre-recorded shows. And it only works as one sat tuner, and no HD.

Standalone TiVo is okay with digital cable and cable cards, and was okay with a sat box before there was any alternative, but once you've used an integrated, all digital sat DVR, especially an HD model, a standalone TiVo just doesn't cut it.
The Tivo uses an IR blaster that you stick on the front of a receiver. It controls the receiver to change channels. Yes, there is a couple seconds delay on every channel change. But, I disagree that watching live or delayed TV is not a good idea. Once that channel change happens, the rest is all the TiVo. No more pauses or anything like that.

As for navigating the menus ... well, that's just moot! You CAN'T navigate the Dish Menu with a TiVo. TiVo has it's own menus which are totally in the hands of Tivo. I agree that in the past year TiVo has done something (on the series 2 anyhow) to make it respond like an old dog. But that's not due to it being in control of another receiver.

The inability to control the menus is an issue if something gets hung like loosing the satellite for a minute. If you have to press "OK", TiVo doesn't know how to do that. So you have to get the dish remote out and fix it every now and then.

As for quality, well, if you want HD, then you have no choice but the receivers from the provider. Some cable services work with HD TiVo or other cable card machines, but not many of them, and even those that do work have issues from what I have read. If you are happy with SD, then perfection is already compromised.

That said, my wife watches crappy reality and food shows with it. I use our 722 for scifi and action movies. For the stuff she watches, the original video quality is questionable to begin with. So it's OK. I agree that watching a good movie on a stand alone TiVo is not what it is best at.
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