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I'm selling a couple of Dish Receivers on ebay, I keep getting asked if I can ship to Canad.

1) Is it legal for me to ship these to Canada?

2) Is there any problems I could run into with this?

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TonyM said:
I always say "US addresses only" when selling boxes.

Canada technically it is illegal to subscribe to Dish or Direct.
I know, but it is it illegal to sell or buy satellite receivers? I mean, is it going to get seized at the border or something?
 

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adam1115 said:
I know, but it is it illegal to sell or buy satellite receivers? I mean, is it going to get seized at the border or something?
As long as it's not medical, or dangerous, or something like that, we have North American free trade. You can sell to Canada. If they illegally use it to steal satellite TV is not of your concern.

I can legally buy hardware or software that allow me to copy copy-protected DVDs. Now if I use it, that is where the law infraction happens.

Now here's the key... Shipping to Canada can be very pricey. So you want to keep the package size small, the package lightweight... And the Canadians could be charged tax on the item. So if the post office asks, you should tell them it is a birthday gift, and not merchandise they purchased from you. Also declare the value of the item to be small.

It's weird.. I've shipped a $300 golf club to canada for about $8. Next time I shipped a $20 golf club shaft to canada for $15, so I only made $5 on the sale. Go figure.

A good rule of thumb is... For Canadian sales, BUYER pays actual shipping. You can get a receipt from the post office and collect actual shipping.
 

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So if the post office asks, you should tell them it is a birthday gift, and not merchandise they purchased from you. Also declare the value of the item to be small.
:nono2: Or maybe you should be honest with the post office, declare the package to be exactly what it is, then make your Canadian buyer pay that postage cost. For someone with a USPS account, being discovered in a lie can be a lot worse than saving a few bucks one time. And even if you don't have an account, honesty makes it easier to keep your story straight. :)
 

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Yeah, when shipping outside US, it's always better to charge actual shipping. I sold my 7100 to someone in Puerto Rico, listed shipping at $20, cost was more. I asked for more, but the seller wouldn't pay, so I ate the difference. Worked out fine because I sold it for more then I paid (this was before E* swapped out all the cards).
 

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FTA Michael said:
:nono2: Or maybe you should be honest with the post office, declare the package to be exactly what it is, then make your Canadian buyer pay that postage cost. For someone with a USPS account, being discovered in a lie can be a lot worse than saving a few bucks one time. And even if you don't have an account, honesty makes it easier to keep your story straight. :)
the main reason for saying its a birthday gift is customs. If you claim its worth 300 bucks, then the person in Canada will get charged customs fees. I had that once when I sent $100 worth of parts.

Claim it as a gift and its less of a pain in the butt to deal with :)
 

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It just falls under the same issue as "lying to get satellite service". :D

Some people are comfortable writing "gift" on something they sold on eBay. Others are not. I'll leave that decision up to the individual.

Most of my eBay purchases are from American sellers ... one was from England and the other lied about his location and shipped from Hong Kong. My purchase from England came honestly labeled "Merchandise commercial" (it was a computer PCI card). The liar in Hong Kong also lied about the content of his package - labeling it "gift". I was annoyed and eBay now has cracked down and that seller correctly lists his real location. :)

Buying from someone in your own country saves a lot of problems. If there is a legal reason why your item isn't sold in your country - doubly so.
 

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TonyM said:
the main reason for saying its a birthday gift is customs. If you claim its worth 300 bucks, then the person in Canada will get charged customs fees. I had that once when I sent $100 worth of parts.

Claim it as a gift and its less of a pain in the butt to deal with :)
It has to be a Gift valued for $60 Canadian or less to be Duty-Free...

If a Gift is valued over $60 Canadian ... the person in Canada would STILL pay duty for the amount in excess of $60 ... even though it's Gift (but if it was NOT a gift.. - the person would pay the duty on the ENTIRE amount)

So to avoid this i guess.. if the value is, say, $300 Canadian.. - i guess the Sender can describe the goods, say, as something like "Used Electronics" or something.. Valued, say, $40 Canadian or so...

Then i guess, if they let it go / "let it be" - there will be NO duty..
If, however, they will have some problem / "some beef" with it (..or with you maybe).. - then they will probably send you a card to come to the custom.. and deal with the package / with you etc..
You would have to fight with them.. etc.. pay duty maybe.. etc.. - if they say you HAVE to :D
 

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It just falls under the same issue as "lying to get satellite service". :D
oh no. Are you going to now post a quote from the USPS site saying "if sending across the border, you have to claim what the item is worth"?

Some people are comfortable writing "gift" on something they sold on eBay.
no problems here :)
 

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No, this isn't like lying in order to qualify to purchase different programming.

This is exactly like lying about how much you spent when you bought your used car just so you don't pay as much sales tax. It's lying to evade taxes, in this case, Customs duties.

I'm not outraged about "moving", but I don't think that it's okay to cheat the government, even if you get away with it. And I find it sad that anyone would speak up in favor of cheating the government.
 

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Trust me.. - government .. or people in it, in congress, etc.. - Are "filling their own pockets" ( in one way or another) with your / our money, etc .. on a much LARGER scale than this "custom" thingy we are talking here above... :D

TonyM said:
it worked for Eddie Guerrero...
NOT sure if it worked for him in particular though... He is not around any longer, after all :(
 

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Ya.. they might just include this "to look good on paper" (so to speak) .. but who knows.. - possibly on request / begging of the buyer - there is still a possibility of them marking "it's Gift" at the time of actual shipment...

NOT all of them of course.. but some sellers still might :)
 

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When I sold receivers I said "US addresses only"

1/2 the boxes I sold went to a Canadian who either
A. had a US PO box on the border
B. Had a buddy on the border with a US address

Hey, saved me some money and didnt charge the buyer any duty
 

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When I sold my 6000 listed for US only, I had lots of questions about whether I would ship to Canada. I had only one bid and almost no action from US buyers while other 6000s were going for more. I cancelled my auction and relisted it allowing shipment to Canada and US. The bidding took off immediately. The winning bidder paid $535 for my 6000 and had me ship it to his brother in Washington. I didn't have to deal with the duty issue or trying to list it as a gift.

..Doyle
 

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I sold my 301 receivers to Canada and just listed them as used audio/video equipment. Very general, but still technically accurate and the person received it without any problem
 
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