I think you mean permanently although that has yet to be confirmed.
Echostar 2 a Total Loss
Rumors are flying that E2 at 148 ( to be moved to 77) has gone silent prematurely.
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No, I was hedging a bit since the FCC application said they would shut it down during transit to 77 but yes indeed, there are more serious rumorsrocatman said:I think you mean permanently although that has yet to be confirmed.
Rumors are for those who wish to panic or cause panic.
If you have FACTS post them ... otherwise, let others monger their rumors.
If you have FACTS post them ... otherwise, let others monger their rumors.
Maybe the non mongers should quit being high and mighty and start panicking.
http://dish.client.shareholder.com/secfiling.cfm?filingid=950134-08-12791
http://dish.client.shareholder.com/secfiling.cfm?filingid=950134-08-12791
http://dish.client.shareholder.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=950134-08-12791
On July 14, 2008, our EchoStar 2 satellite experienced a substantial failure that appears to have rendered the satellite a total loss. EchoStar 2 had been operating from the 148 degree orbital location primarily as a back-up satellite, but had provided local network channel service to Alaska and six other small markets. All programming and other services previously broadcast from EchoStar 2 were restored to Echostar 1, the primary satellite at the 148 degree location, within several hours after the failure. EchoStar 2, which was launched in September 1996, had a book value of approximately $6.4 million as of June 30, 2008.
Please change the title to say EchoStar 2 so there is no possible confusion with the current launch of EchoStar 11.
That'll put a crimp on the Eastern Arc. At least they got 12 out of the projected 10 years out of it. Not too bad.
Good idea. It gets so confusing.JohnH said:Please change the title to say EchoStar 2 so there is no possible confusion with the current launch of EchoStar 11.
Since this is a thread about a rumor and not a failure, continue discussion about the failure here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=133326
Well lets see here..................... The satelite was 6.4 million and prolly a mil or 2 to launch it and laber cost we will just go head and say ten million.
So if you had just a million subscribers (very small estimate) and they paid a rock bottom 30 bucks a month then thats 30 million a MONTH....... I would hope 20 million covers your overhead cost and etc leaving you enough to reup.
And did they not get any type of insurance with that launch company??? I certainly hope so!
So if you had just a million subscribers (very small estimate) and they paid a rock bottom 30 bucks a month then thats 30 million a MONTH....... I would hope 20 million covers your overhead cost and etc leaving you enough to reup.
And did they not get any type of insurance with that launch company??? I certainly hope so!
Huh??? E2 was 12 years old and had been at 148W since 2001. It's design life was 10 years. Some research shows that this class of sat has had some abnormal power failures. That's probably what just happened to E2. http://www.sat-nd.com/failures/index.html?http://www.sat-nd.com/failures/echo2.htmlRessurrector said:Well lets see here..................... The satelite was 6.4 million and prolly a mil or 2 to launch it and laber cost we will just go head and say ten million.
So if you had just a million subscribers (very small estimate) and they paid a rock bottom 30 bucks a month then thats 30 million a MONTH....... I would hope 20 million covers your overhead cost and etc leaving you enough to reup.
And did they not get any type of insurance with that launch company??? I certainly hope so!
I think someone's confusing E2 with E11.Ressurrector said:Well lets see here..................... The satelite was 6.4 million and prolly a mil or 2 to launch it and laber cost we will just go head and say ten million.
So if you had just a million subscribers (very small estimate) and they paid a rock bottom 30 bucks a month then thats 30 million a MONTH....... I would hope 20 million covers your overhead cost and etc leaving you enough to reup.
And did they not get any type of insurance with that launch company??? I certainly hope so!
For those of us who remember Echostar 2, a memorial service will be held Friday night at the original location.
<sarcasm>Yeah! The nerve of that satellite company, not to stand behind their work! They should replace it for free, including the delivery costs!</sarcasm>Ressurrector said:Well lets see here..................... The satelite was 6.4 million and prolly a mil or 2 to launch it and laber cost we will just go head and say ten million.
So if you had just a million subscribers (very small estimate) and they paid a rock bottom 30 bucks a month then thats 30 million a MONTH....... I would hope 20 million covers your overhead cost and etc leaving you enough to reup.
And did they not get any type of insurance with that launch company??? I certainly hope so!
Hey, people think that's the way Dish (and DirecTV) work...
BTW, E2, from what I understand, was the satellite equivalent of a 1986 Ford Escort with 250,000 mi. on the clock. It should have been in the back row of Smilin' Cal's lot by now.
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I suppose that's the one I watched when I signed up in '96.russ9 said:For those of us who remember Echostar 2, a memorial service will be held Friday night at the original location.
Everything gets old even satelites. It's expected.Newshawk said:<sarcasm>Yeah! The nerve of that satellite company, not to stand behind their work! They should replace it for free, including the delivery costs!</sarcasm>
Hey, people think that's the way Dish (and DirecTV) work...
BTW, E2, from what I understand, was the satellite equivalent of a 1986 Ford Escort with 250,000 mi. on the clock. It should have been in the back row of Smilin' Cal's lot by now.
We have Smiling Cal out here. Must be franchised because he advertises on KTLA. I live in Northern Calif & he has a lot in San Jose. He must be over 90. I remember seeing him on TV way back in the 50's.
Now you know why no one at E* was willing to say anything about it.RasputinAXP said:I think someone's confusing E2 with E11.
If this had occurred a month ago, it would have been reported immediately, but they undoubtedly were desperate to avoid this confusion !
Since E2 is now gone, will they consider moving E8 to 129 to replace that bird or will they try to continue with the eastern arc plans?
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