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Eventually more transponders for DISH at 72.7/72.5?

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tkrandall
DirecTV has been using 16 transponders at 72.5 for a few years, but it's lease will reportedly be up soon and I don't think DirecTV has plans for use of 72.5 long term as it ws a band aid for local markets. DISH this year just got use of the other 16 transponders, with the bird located at 72.7. When DirecTV's lease is up does anyone think Dish will be able to secure use of all 32 transponders at this location?
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BattleZone
I'm pretty sure that there is a rule about Canadian use of those TPs. For at least the last few years, Canada has been pushing hard on all of their industries to increase "Canadian content" and Canadian use of its resources. Still, anything is possible, with the right wheels greased.
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tkrandall
This on page 1

http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/servlet/ib.page.FetchAttachment?attachment_key=-147607

states they the want to have authority for use of all 32 transponders, within the limits of the contract (i.e. with the Canadians), and that they expect the DirecTV arrangement to lapse next year.
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I don't think Dish will use more than the 11 TPs that the E-6 satellite can provide in double power mode until the Nimiq 5 satellite is launched to the 72.7 W slot. It has been recently reported elsewhere that this is now scheduled for early 2010.
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tkrandall
why do they need to use double power mode? 72.7 will be for Conus coverage, core programming, etc.
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BattleZone
tkrandall said:
why do they need to use double power mode? 72.7 will be for Conus coverage, core programming, etc.
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"Double Power Mode" is normal for DBS sats, because they must output a stronger signal to the small dishes we use. Triple-power mode isn't unusual (combining 3 on-board amps for a single TP). At single-power, lots of people wouldn't get enough signal without a larger dish.
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tkrandall
I am aware DBS is higher power than some other protocols like FSS. Does Echostar 6 have less power output capability than other newer sats?
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James Long
Yes ... newer satellites have been pushing the power envelope more.
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simulated
echostar 6 at beginning of it's life, 10kw of power, minus the loss of a few solar array strings, explains why only 11 transponders are able to be used in double power mode.

in comparison, echostar 11, boasts 20kw. If you sit opposite to the 110w slot, and position your hand held tanning reflector just right, you can get a great tan anytime of the year :)
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rocatman said:
I don't think Dish will use more than the 11 TPs that the E-6 satellite can provide in double power mode until the Nimiq 5 satellite is launched to the 72.7 W slot. It has been recently reported elsewhere that this is now scheduled for early 2010.
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Has that been delayed? I'd think with the launch of eastern arc they'd want newer more powerful birds in those slots as soon as practical.
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BattleZone
tkrandall said:
Has that been delayed? I'd think with the launch of eastern arc they'd want newer more powerful birds in those slots as soon as practical.
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Things move slow in the satellite launching business. There is always an 18-24 month backlog for sat launches, and lots of red tape to cut through.
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