I am 1 year into a 2 year contract and would like to add an SD DVR. This would replace a SD box in my bedroom. Current setup in HD DVR in living room and SD receivers in bedroom and bonus room. It is my understanding that a multiswitch would be needed since I am going from 4 tuners to 5. Is the SWM available in Middle Tennessee? My bedroom is a little different than the other two, as it uses the existing coax in my home. The living room and bonus room lines are wrapped around the house and drilled into the room from the outside. This is going back a year, but can someone tell me why the installer didn't use existing coax in the other two rooms? I understand the living room because I have a DVR and needed the additional line, but upstairs is not a DVR. If it makes any difference I have a cable modem in the upstairs bonus room. My questions is can I have a use a dual tuner DVR in my bedroom without running another line using the SWM? If so, can I go ahead and put a DVR in the upstairs bonus room using the single cable that has ran during install? What should I expect to pay for 1 or 2 DVRs? Thanks for your help.
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This is correctflowbe209 said:
Maybe, but you'll need to make sure you get an R16 or R22 in order to use it. SWMs aren't usually installed in a upgrade.
Usually because the installer can't verify that the right kind of cable is in the walls.
This is always a challenge; especially if all of the rooms don't home run to where the TV cable was split.
You can do this IFF you get an SWM compatible DVR.
Only if you get the right SD DVR
Can't help you here. It depends entirely on DIRECTV's opinion of you. It doesn't help that you've got a year to go in your current commitment.
The stumbling block here is that you probably won't know what DVR you're going to get until the installer shows up with it.
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Depending on the SD receivers, a SWMline LNB might not work, and no HSPs install SWM-8 switches for residential work. Plus, per current business rules, SWM technology is only for NEW installs with 4 or more receivers, HD, and at least one DVR (mostly due to low availability and the priority being the new customers with the greatest need).
As such, the likelyhood of anyone being able to get anything SWM for an existing customer through DirecTV is almost zero. The ordering system won't allow it for existing customers, as that violates current business rules. Noting a work order is meaningless; unless the hardware is listed as an installation item, it generally won't be installed, because it won't be reimbursed for.
So, if you want SWM technology NOW, as an existing customer who doesn't qualify for it under current business rules, be prepared to buy it yourself. Any other expectation is a recipe for disappointment.
As such, the likelyhood of anyone being able to get anything SWM for an existing customer through DirecTV is almost zero. The ordering system won't allow it for existing customers, as that violates current business rules. Noting a work order is meaningless; unless the hardware is listed as an installation item, it generally won't be installed, because it won't be reimbursed for.
So, if you want SWM technology NOW, as an existing customer who doesn't qualify for it under current business rules, be prepared to buy it yourself. Any other expectation is a recipe for disappointment.
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Another reason why the existing wiring was not used when you had your installation performed: most cable installations start with one cable that is split as it is strung through the house. For DirecTV, you need a dedicated cable from the point of the multi-switch to the receiver. (Okay that's not exactly true as you can now diplex the receiver signal onto a cable line, but there cannot be any cable splitters along the line.) Your installer probably didn't want to have to try to deal with any cable splitters in your current setup so they just ran the additional/new lines around the outside the house to make things easy for them.
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The OP in this thread said he got it, just wondering why you say it can't be done by the ordering system?IIP said:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=135614
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The OP in that thread has confirmed that he got a CSR who claims to have put in an order. Let's see if that order is fulfilled correctly before making any claims. There have been MANY, MANY threads from folks trying to get SWM equipment and not being able to.
When posting about SWM you have to be very specific.
The SWM8 is NOT available through the installer channel. Anywhere. It's only available for MDU installers. There is no point in pressuring the CSR or the installer about this because they are not available. You can buy one yourself of course.
The SWMline (SWM LNB) is already available over much of the country, official rollout is 8/20 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=136507 You will see from that post that for the moment the dish is supposed to be for new customers only, and even then only when they meet certain criteria. We have seen a few installations of the SWMline 5 dish for people who have upgraded to HD and meet all the requirements except they are not new customers, but most of those have been a local decision taken by the installer, to avoid running lots of cables.
Diplexing is not supported by DirecTV, because there are too many issues in making it work. If you know what you are doing, and get the correct splitters and diplexers, you can make it work for OTA and basic cable. It can even work for a cable modem, but that is dependent on the frequencies being used for the two-way communication required.
The SWM8 is NOT available through the installer channel. Anywhere. It's only available for MDU installers. There is no point in pressuring the CSR or the installer about this because they are not available. You can buy one yourself of course.
The SWMline (SWM LNB) is already available over much of the country, official rollout is 8/20 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=136507 You will see from that post that for the moment the dish is supposed to be for new customers only, and even then only when they meet certain criteria. We have seen a few installations of the SWMline 5 dish for people who have upgraded to HD and meet all the requirements except they are not new customers, but most of those have been a local decision taken by the installer, to avoid running lots of cables.
Diplexing is not supported by DirecTV, because there are too many issues in making it work. If you know what you are doing, and get the correct splitters and diplexers, you can make it work for OTA and basic cable. It can even work for a cable modem, but that is dependent on the frequencies being used for the two-way communication required.
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Now we know that for the non-SWM scenario, they can't recommend diplexing as they may eventually send you a upgraded/replacement STB that has built-in BBCs that will screw you out of diplexing no matter how righteous you think you are.texasbrit said:
DIRECTV will rue the day they built in BBCs.
For those who correctly observe that the H23 with its built-in BBC doesn't have an available OTA tuner at this time, I would point out that the TV that it is connected to probably does.
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