Not to mention just because somewhere NEAR you has you will get it soon. They have been in this area for over a year now and they still aren't in my neighborhood or where I used to live, yet I know others who have it. Go figure.Earl Bonovich said:Unless those new FCC rules, allow for quicker deployment of the physicall pieces of "fiber" based services....
Competition is going to be issolated to areas, that have the "glass" already strung.
I am not sure how they can say that.Kapeman said:That same report had an interesting note that DBS was not haviing any affect on cable prices.
That makes no sense right there, of course it's going to take time to lay the fiber, but the cable companies one day will have to re wire their entire networks with fiber as well. Apple proved why only having 3 or 4% of the market matters heavily. (Dell has now less Market Cap than Apple) Verizon also owns the 2nd largest cell provider, they could offer the quad threat.Earl Bonovich said:Unless those new FCC rules, allow for quicker deployment of the physicall pieces of "fiber" based services....
Competition is going to be issolated to areas, that have the "glass" already strung.
Like New Jersey? Verizon has recently been granted a state-wide franchise and has been laying fiber like crazy. They are making serious in-roads in the NY metro area in general. That's a pretty big market and I don't think anybody, not cable, D* or E* can afford to ignore such an aggressively expanding service in high population centers. They are moving much, much faster here in NJ than telcos rolled out DSL or cable companies rolled out high-speed internet.Earl Bonovich said:Why doesn't it make sense?
For me to get any "fiber" based product, my area will have to be re-wired.
And my house is only 3 years old, and the subdivision isn't finished yet.
You would think if they where proactive, they wouldn't have run the copper based lines that they did.
So I am looking at years (multiple) before I even possible have a "hint" of fiber in my area... heck... we can't even get DSL yet, because the infrastructer hasn't kept up with the housing growth in the area.
Competition will definently be there in certain areas, but until fiber based services start to reach some sort of critical mass.....
Cool... thank you for the update/correction...monetnj said:Like New Jersey? Verizon has recently been granted a state-wide franchise and has been laying fiber like crazy. They are making serious in-roads in the NY metro area in general. That's a pretty big market and I don't think anybody, not cable, D* or E* can afford to ignore such an aggressively expanding service in high population centers. They are moving much, much faster here in NJ than telcos rolled out DSL or cable companies rolled out high-speed internet.
We have Verizon phone and regular DSL service here in Central Wisconsin. Yet, we don't even appear on the list on wikipedia. I am sure we won't see FIOS for many many years.monetnj said:Like New Jersey? Verizon has recently been granted a state-wide franchise and has been laying fiber like crazy. They are making serious in-roads in the NY metro area in general. That's a pretty big market and I don't think anybody, not cable, D* or E* can afford to ignore such an aggressively expanding service in high population centers. They are moving much, much faster here in NJ than telcos rolled out DSL or cable companies rolled out high-speed internet.
They are pushing the triple play here also. Qwest (which has a bundle with Directv) has countered with a TV ad called "Jack My Price Up" pointing out that Comcasts rates will jump quite a bit after the one-year of Triple Play expires.Earl Bonovich said:I am not sure how they can say that.
Here in Chicago... the "Triple Play" ... has cable at $33 (when you get all three). Vs the higher standalone price.
Since 1/3 of the Triple Play is directly targetting DBS (since there is no other cable option in town to target), I would say it has a direct affect on their prices.
A quick Google search turns up:saleen351 said:I'm from NJ, it's not only the most densely populated state, it has the highest income per capital in the country, ...
Living in Central Pennsylvania (Harrisburg area) Verizon is running fiber optic like there is no tomorrow. Problem here in PA is that they have to ger approval from the local governments (Townships, Boros and Cities) to offer TV service. They all want a cut. Verizon is trying to get the state assembly to change the law so they can by pass the locals. But I am waiting for the FiOS so I can drop all of Comcast cable service. I have DirecTV and have the bare basic cable so get cheaper internet service. Verizon FiOS internet service is cheaper and faster than Comcast.Earl Bonovich said:Unless those new FCC rules, allow for quicker deployment of the physicall pieces of "fiber" based services....
Competition is going to be issolated to areas, that have the "glass" already strung.
