[cnr1089]

Maybe I have forgotten how this feature works on the non-Tivo boxes, but as the new season of shows are starting up, I started setting up some new season passes (actually, the Direct TV guy accidentally removed all my season passes so I had to re-enter them on on DVR).

All of them set with "First Run Only." Well, I got excited when I saw some recordings of my favorite shows. When I watched them, though, they weren't new. Most with Air dates in May of this year, but certainly not the day it recorded.

So, is it "first run" that my DVR has seen? Or first time the show has aired? Certainly if the DVR has the first air date, it should know that it isn't may, right?

I don't remember this problem last year during the season!

 

[Supervolcano]

Might help if you list exactly which series have done this to you.

 

[RobertE]

Maybe I have forgotten how this feature works on the non-Tivo boxes, but as the new season of shows are starting up, I started setting up some new season passes (actually, the Direct TV guy accidentally removed all my season passes so I had to re-enter them on on DVR).

All of them set with "First Run Only." Well, I got excited when I saw some recordings of my favorite shows. When I watched them, though, they weren't new. Most with Air dates in May of this year, but certainly not the day it recorded.

So, is it "first run" that my DVR has seen? Or first time the show has aired? Certainly if the DVR has the first air date, it should know that it isn't may, right?

I don't remember this problem last year during the season!

Is it recording all episodes or just one repeat?

How did you set up the series link?

If you set up the series link via the guide, then it will record first runs only plus the one episoded (new or repeat) that you used to set the recording.

 

[krs7272]

I've had this happen last week with the Office, Bull**** recording last season or non first run episodes. American Chopper the records the same episode at 9 and 1 am almost every week.

 

[houskamp]

"Inside Nascar" records 3 copies every week..
Also have seen a few other shows being recorded despite showing that original air date was last spring..
Haven't been able to pin it down to guide data or the recievers..

 

[cnr1089]

I will try and collect data, but it has happened with the Office, House, and some others. It is possible that I selected them via the guide, causing this to happen.

I will have to try and isolate the case.

 

[Terry Kennedy]

I will try and collect data, but it has happened with the Office, House, and some others. It is possible that I selected them via the guide, causing this to happen.

I always get the next showing, regardless of first-run status when I do "search for shows" and add it as a series to record.

The other cases I've seen tend to be from shows that don't list sufficient info in the program guide for the HR to distinguish - either no "original air date" or a useless episode title. My HR filled up with loads of "Sunrise Earth: Viewers Choice" duplicates.

The first situation should be easily curable with a software update. The second looks like it will need the cooperation of the outfit that supplies the program info to DirecTV.

 

[Grentz]

The First Run status depends on the guide data.

The Repeats and First Runs should catch each episode once (it remembers what it has already recorded...Tivo did for 30days I believe, dont know on the HR2x). But nothing is perfect and a lot has to do with the guide data that is from a 3rd party.

 

[inkahauts]

I will try and collect data, but it has happened with the Office, House, and some others. It is possible that I selected them via the guide, causing this to happen.

I will have to try and isolate the case.

Don't bother if its a network show... Here is what's happening... When you first set up a series link, you are selecting that particular episode to record, so that particular episode will be recorded regardless if its a repeat or not. After that episode that you used to create the season pass, the unit will then depend on guide data, and for network shows, I haven't had any issues...

If its a sat channel though, some do it right, some don't, so it might depend on the show. If its a major show like The Closer, its likely populated correctly, however, shows like the Daily Show, are never noted as new or repeats, so those can be troublesome to say the least...

 

[Supervolcano]

If the problem is you using the guide to set series link, and it schedules that one rerun you set it from (like the guys here mentioned), just go into the "TO DO" list (inside the "Manage Recordings" option in menu) and press the "red" button to delete that specific episode. This won't delete the whole series, it will just delete that one episode from trying to record.

 

[bonscott87]

When you first set up a series link it will always record the episode you set it up from, even if it doesn't qualify (i.e. it's not a first run in this case). Always been that way.

If you're having problems beyond that first episode you set it up on then there is some screwy guide data going on most likely.

 

[rbpeirce]

It is like the old TV ad. If you haven't seen it, it is new to you. I have several DVRs. I use one for most of the shows I watch but if I am going away and want to take a DVR, I program the other one. It ALWAYS picks up repeats because it has never recorded them before.

I think there should probably be some kind of flag that says the show is a repeat, but that doesn't seem to be the case. If it is the case, the DVRs ignore it.

 

[rbpeirce]

Reading further, I see why I always get that repeat show. Useful info in the future.

I always use search for titles to program my DVRs, but i guess if the first episode is a repeat it might get picked up.

 

[Dmtalon]

Now if I can figure out why I had two recordings on SPEED and SPEEDHD for an advanced search series and "SD" channels hidden.

Silly DVR

 

[rb5505]

if you have a show set for a first run only season pass, doesn't the dvr base the decision to record on the first run date listed in info? in other words, if the episodes orig air date was in the past, it will not record it. i'm pretty sure the tivo's do it this way. i don't ever recall this issue with my tivo when the fall season started.

 

[Steve]

if you have a show set for a first run only season pass, doesn't the dvr base the decision to record on the first run date listed in info? in other words, if the episodes orig air date was in the past, it will not record it. i'm pretty sure the tivo's do it this way. i don't ever recall this issue with my tivo when the fall season started.

If only it did work that way... see my rant here. I too believe TiVo either checked OAD on the fly, or the folks at TiVo "pre-massaged" the TMS program data (based on OAD) to accurately flag first runs vs. repeats. /steve

 

[rb5505]

yes, there are some positives with the directv dvr's over tivo. just not enough. i eagerly await the best of both with the coming new tivo in 2009.

 

[baseband]

yes, there are some positives with the directv dvr's over tivo. just not enough. i eagerly await the best of both with the coming new tivo in 2009.

Ultimate TV would only record prime time shows and not pick up the syndicated shows. It would also not record the same episode over and over again . The hr 21 will give you many episodes of the same show. That is ridiculous.

 

[Grentz]

yes, there are some positives with the directv dvr's over tivo. just not enough. i eagerly await the best of both with the coming new tivo in 2009.

Depends on your personal opinion, I love my HR2x and find a TON of things that I miss when I go back to having to use a Tivo.

 

[Steve]

Ultimate TV would only record prime time shows and not pick up the syndicated shows. It would also not record the same episode over and over again . The hr 21 will give you many episodes of the same show. That is ridiculous.

Though it's not officially documented anywhere, AFAIK, it appears the HR2x has a "28 day rule", similar to the DirecTiVo. Assuming the guide data is accurate, it seems to ignore the same episode if it's been recorded in the past 3-4 weeks.

The reports I've seen of repeat episodes being recorded have been for shows on channels like Comedy Central, e.g., which in the past has been notorious for providing poor GUIDE data. I'm don't record anything from that channel, but hopefully they've gotten their act together by now, since I haven't noticed any recent complaints from others.

/steve