Yes it is legit. Here is more info on it.....http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=131774
You will get either an H20 or H21 or H23.
You will get either an H20 or H21 or H23.
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WARNING: Off-Topic Replydjwww98 said:
I must respectfully disagree. I have been a customer for nearly 10 years. I have never had a serious issue with them. If I had ever not been able to resolve something to my liking I would not still be a customer.
Are they a ginormous bureaucracy that often is at odds with itself and one hand doesn't know what the other is doing (saying)? Yes.
Is it hard to get a straight answer? Yes.
Is satellite TV and the changing standards, technology and equipment massively complex? Yes.
Have I ever felt 'screwed'? No.
That is just my experience. I recognize other have had different result. Maybe I am lucky. Maybe some other explanation.
All I know is the following (its sort of my motto):
LIFE IS TOO HARD THESE DAYS.
I have spent far more time on the phone with banks and utility companies and nearly everybody else than I have with D*. (Don't even get me started on what I have gone thru in the last three months to get the manufacturer of my bbq grill to ship me the correct parts for a conversion from propane to natural gas...
)Anyway, I am not trying to be argumentative. Just felt that I needed to respond as I really don't think D* is all that bad compared with every other hassle in life.
I just want to watch TV.
Please don't take offense.
PS - If you knew me, you would likely believe I am the most cynical human being on the planet...but I am just reluctant to call lying their business model.
"Let me 'splain....no, there is no time...let me sum up"
Basically it seems to come down to a simple choice (as most things do, IMHO):
1 - Do nothing
2 - Do something
Unfortunately, there are extenuating circumstances. So (as I understand it after reading many threads)....
1 - Call them back and cancel this whole mess. I will lose the ability to receive HD satellite from D* in February (+/-). But, as I don't currently receive HD from from them, no harm done. My old Samsung HD receiver will continue to function and act as an OTA HD tuner as it has always done. No change to my expenses.
2a - Go ahead as scheduled. I will likely, if not certainly, receive an HD receiver incapable of receiving OTA HD broadcasts (how's that for variations of 'receive' in a single sentence ). They will try to increase my $$ output by charging me for HD package. I can try to fight this based on the statement "no change in billing", but it will get messy and either way I will lose my HD OTA football which is all that really matters to me. At some point something called an AM-21 might solve this, but probably not. ((As an aside...(call it 2a.1 'cuz I am "conversationally anal-retentive") if the Samsung is deactivated as a receiver, will it still work as an OTA HD box? That is to say, could it be a separate and FREE input device connected solely to my HD OTA antenna)????
2b - Spend some $$$. Get them to replace the HD receiver with a HD DVR. Pay the HD fee. This is likely a $99.00 upgrade (to DVR) and whatever the HD package is these days (9.99?). I have some issues with this as I don't receive much added value (IMO) for approx $350 over two years.
Is this the basic scenario?
( I won't even mention how my R-15 appears dead, but maybe not completely, and maybe it should be replaced, or maybe just do a hard disk replacement, but that may not fix it , as maybe one tuner may be dead, but an HD DVR at that TV would be nice maybe, but not really, as the TV isn't HD, but isn't standard def either, it's a 700 line tube, so maybe there is an increase in picture quality, but maybe I really am in way over my head....)
(oops...mentioned it!)
PS - Bonus points for identifying my 'cultural references'. I am actually quite interested in which is harder....
(edited many times as i am a poor typer and have had a few beers.)
Basically it seems to come down to a simple choice (as most things do, IMHO):
1 - Do nothing
2 - Do something
Unfortunately, there are extenuating circumstances. So (as I understand it after reading many threads)....
1 - Call them back and cancel this whole mess. I will lose the ability to receive HD satellite from D* in February (+/-). But, as I don't currently receive HD from from them, no harm done. My old Samsung HD receiver will continue to function and act as an OTA HD tuner as it has always done. No change to my expenses.
2a - Go ahead as scheduled. I will likely, if not certainly, receive an HD receiver incapable of receiving OTA HD broadcasts (how's that for variations of 'receive' in a single sentence
). They will try to increase my $$ output by charging me for HD package. I can try to fight this based on the statement "no change in billing", but it will get messy and either way I will lose my HD OTA football which is all that really matters to me. At some point something called an AM-21 might solve this, but probably not. ((As an aside...(call it 2a.1 'cuz I am "conversationally anal-retentive") if the Samsung is deactivated as a receiver, will it still work as an OTA HD box? That is to say, could it be a separate and FREE input device connected solely to my HD OTA antenna)????2b - Spend some $$$. Get them to replace the HD receiver with a HD DVR. Pay the HD fee. This is likely a $99.00 upgrade (to DVR) and whatever the HD package is these days (9.99?). I have some issues with this as I don't receive much added value (IMO) for approx $350 over two years.
Is this the basic scenario?
( I won't even mention how my R-15 appears dead, but maybe not completely, and maybe it should be replaced, or maybe just do a hard disk replacement, but that may not fix it , as maybe one tuner may be dead, but an HD DVR at that TV would be nice maybe, but not really, as the TV isn't HD, but isn't standard def either, it's a 700 line tube, so maybe there is an increase in picture quality, but maybe I really am in way over my head....)
(oops...mentioned it!)
PS - Bonus points for identifying my 'cultural references'. I am actually quite interested in which is harder....
(edited many times as i am a poor typer and have had a few beers.)
They lied. They do it all the time. This is how they do business.wohlfie said:WARNING: Off-Topic Reply
I must respectfully disagree. I have been a customer for nearly 10 years. I have never had a serious issue with them. If I had ever not been able to resolve something to my liking I would not still be a customer.
Are they a ginormous bureaucracy that often is at odds with itself and one hand doesn't know what the other is doing (saying)? Yes.
Is it hard to get a straight answer? Yes.
Is satellite TV and the changing standards, technology and equipment massively complex? Yes.
Have I ever felt 'screwed'? No.
That is just my experience. I recognize other have had different result. Maybe I am lucky. Maybe some other explanation.
All I know is the following (its sort of my motto):
LIFE IS TOO HARD THESE DAYS.
I have spent far more time on the phone with banks and utility companies and nearly everybody else than I have with D*. (Don't even get me started on what I have gone thru in the last three months to get the manufacturer of my bbq grill to ship me the correct parts for a conversion from propane to natural gas...
Anyway, I am not trying to be argumentative. Just felt that I needed to respond as I really don't think D* is all that bad compared with every other hassle in life.
I just want to watch TV.
Please don't take offense.
PS - If you knew me, you would likely believe I am the most cynical human being on the planet...but I am just reluctant to call lying their business model.
Justifying it by saying that other big businesses do it too does not change the fact that they lied, they do it all the time, and this is how they do business. Did you read the two links? That took me about 3 seconds to find. I could spend a little more time and come up with a thousand threads from people who have been lied to, including me.
And no offense taken.
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