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Have had for a couple of weeks - have some questions!

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I've been with E* for the past 4 1/2 years.

Now with D*.

I have HR34-700, H25-500, AM21, Slimline SWM-3. I have Choice Xtra package.

Trying to find out some info on some things that don't make sense or I haven't figured out yet.

1. I cannot find a way to pause or record on the music channels. I get a "thump" sound (sounds like hitting the top of an empty coffee can!) This is something that I did on a regular basis with E*. Like a song, back it up and listen to it again. Record for a while, then play back skipping the songs that I don't necessarily like.

2. Since I have this "free movie channels for 90-days", are they available to watch after the trial period has ended?

3. Will I have access to the same Cinema-movies after this 90-day period, too?

4. Is there a way to customize any of the buttons on the remote? For example, when in the program guide, I would like to be able to set a button so that I could one-touch to "View Upcoming". If I see something that I like, I typically try to record it as far in the future as possible to conserve HD space - and not fill it up in one week.

5. Are there any options for slow motion. I know with E* there were two speeds, and you didn't have to hold a button. Really cool for sporting events.

6. Is there a way to see the HR34 To Do List on my H25?

7. Is there a problem with using a di-plexer and back-feeding an RF signal out of my H25 (using an RF-converter) to feed signal to the seldom-used TV's in my home (installer gave me a couple of RF-remotes for this purpose, at installation time.) NOTE: this location, where the H25 is, is where the 18v-power supply is connected.


Thanks, in advance!
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1. Not possible on Directv.
2. Yes. Also good for preview weekends
3. On Demand downloads cannot be played after the channel is not available to you
4. No
5. Not sure on this one
6. Not t this time (common request)
7. Not sure here either
dpeters11 said:
1. Not possible on Directv.
Anyone know the real reason why?

dpeters11 said:
2. Yes. Also good for preview weekends
Is there something published to know when the preview weekends are, in advance? e-mail list?

Thanks!
Reason: They want you to buy the song, not record it. They would include the music service DIRECTV® contracted with to put the channels on in the first place.

Slo mo can be had by holding down the Play button a few seconds.

Previews don't seem to get published much in advance. I see them in Messages, but delete them all as soon as they appear.
3. movies you have downloaded while on the free promotion trial can be played until they expire. you cannot download movies from the premium DOD channels when the are offer on a free weekend preview.

7. you cannot use diplexers on a DirecTV system
peds48 said:
3. movies you have downloaded while on the free promotion trial can be played until they expire. you cannot download movies from the premium DOD channels when the are offer on a free weekend preview.

7. you cannot use diplexers on a DirecTV system
Are you sure?
wyy183 said:
Is there something published to know when the preview weekends are, in advance? e-mail list?
I subscribed to the RSS feed on this site: http://www.freepreview.tv/. Fairly accurate, but not 100%.
peds48 said:
3. movies you have downloaded while on the free promotion trial can be played until they expire. you cannot download movies from the premium DOD channels when the are offer on a free weekend preview.

7. you cannot use diplexers on a DirecTV system
studechip said:
Are you sure?
You can diplex OTA with a SWiM system but not while using DECA. DECA uses the same frequencies as OTA.

On another note: Another way to slo-mo is to hit pause and use the FF and RW buttons to step through the frames.
When the tech was here doing my install, he asked about the number of TV's that I had (one is in the kitchen, that he could see - in addition to the LR & Family Room installs.) He wanted to know if I was planning on hooking it up in the future.

I told him that I was planning on using an RF-modulator off of the H25 to back-feed to a splitter that would feed the Kitchen and three bedrooms. He asked if I was planning on using a diplexer, or some such. I told him that I had planned on it. He just said, "cool!" He also left me a couple of RF-remotes for use with these.

With E*, I had that basic arrangement - there was a triplexer on the back of the 922, which had the two sat-in cables, and the RF-out. It was split under the house with another "plexer" to feed these remote TV's.

Since I still have the E* devices, I'm planning on using them. My main concern is the power that is supplied on the SWiM. Power is in between my wall connection and the H25. Which side of the power should I connect? Does it make any difference? Are my remote TV's going to catch fire and explode? (If so, then I need to get a video camera to record so I can post to you-tube!!)

Along those same lines - I noticed that the H25 has a 1/8" stereo connector for the antenna. Is there any reason why I couldn't get an 1/8" stereo to F-connector adapter, and use on of the E* remote antennas that I have laying around?
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I just happened across something that said that the H25 is either IR or RF, but does not support both at the same time. Can someone confirm this? I was planning on using IR in my LR and RF in BR.

Thanks.
wyy183 said:
I just happened across something that said that the H25 is either IR or RF, but does not support both at the same time. Can someone confirm this? I was planning on using IR in my LR and RF in BR.

Thanks.
AFAIK, none of the MPEG4 receivers, like the H25, do IR and RF at the same time. Why not just use RF in both locations?
The only current DIRECTV receiver that will do both IR and RF at the same time is the THR22 TiVo. However, you can use something like the NextGen LRRX Multi-Room Extender to do what you want. It replaces the battery in one of your IR remotes and converts it to send RF. There is a hockey-puck-sized device that sits at the receiver that converts the signal back to IR.

I have used it and I know others have as well.
RAD said:
AFAIK, none of the MPEG4 receivers, like the H25, do IR and RF at the same time. Why not just use RF in both locations?
When I was with E*, I had a 722K receiver.
- In my family room, I had three IR remotes that I used. Room is 20' x 20'.
- An RF in my kitchen.
- An RF in my LR.
- An RF in each of my BR's.

When I switched to a 922, and moved it to my LR:
- Had two IR remote in LR.
- Had IR in my kitchen (line of sight to LR.)
- Had RF for Family room.
- Had RF for two BR's.

Guess I just "assumed" that D* would do both.

I currently have:
- two IR remotes working in my Family Room.
- two IR in LR.
- two RF remotes that are not setup yet.

So, the short answer is - I only have two RF remotes, and was planning on using those in two of my BR's; however, it seems that I might need to re-think this...
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You can not diplex, but if you have a second coax line, you can still do the same thing...

I don't get why you have so many remotes, I think we need some more info to understand that.

I know you where looking for a shortcut, but to view upcoming, I hope you have found that if you hit the info button, the option is there. YOU can also select info on a channel name in the guide and get the list of just whats on that channel.

With a larger hard drive than you had before, I believe you may not have to worry about recording things that far in advance. You can always add a esata hard drive as well and never worry about space again if you like.

I think if you explain your setup, and what you would like to do in the end, and don't necessarily look for it to work the same as before, it might be easier to help you figure it out.
wyy183 said:
When I was with E*, I had a 722K receiver.
- In my family room, I had three IR remotes that I used. Room is 20' x 20'.
- An RF in my kitchen.
- An RF in my LR.
- An RF in each of my BR's.

When I switched to a 922, and moved it to my LR:
- Had two IR remote in LR.
- Had IR in my kitchen (line of sight to LR.)
- Had RF for Family room.
- Had RF for two BR's.

Guess I just "assumed" that D* would do both.

I currently have:
- two IR remotes working in my Family Room.
- two IR in LR.
- two RF remotes that are not setup yet.

So, the short answer is - I only have two RF remotes, and was planning on using those in two of my BR's; however, it seems that I might need to re-think this...
You can always buy more RF remotes if you need them, either from DIRECTV, vendors like Solid Signal or E-Bay.
The Whole Home DVR is shared by a computer network on the coax cable called DECA. DECA uses some of the frequencies traditionally used for OTA and cable.

A diplexer would stop the DECA signal from passing on the Sat leg.

Analog channel 3/4 is not in the DECA frequency range.

Although something complicated and messy like the attached could possibly work, there would be a lot of extra loss and it would not be a supported setup. A tech would remove the diplexer on sight. It would be a lot better to find another way to do it.

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inkahauts said:
<snip> I don't get why you have so many remotes, I think we need some more info to understand that.

I know you where looking for a shortcut, but to view upcoming, I hope you have found that if you hit the info button, the option is there. YOU can also select info on a channel name in the guide and get the list of just whats on that channel.

With a larger hard drive than you had before, I believe you may not have to worry about recording things that far in advance. You can always add a esata hard drive as well and never worry about space again if you like.

I think if you explain your setup, and what you would like to do in the end, and don't necessarily look for it to work the same as before, it might be easier to help you figure it out.
OK - With E*, in the past year, I had fourteen (yes, 14) receivers. 722, 722K, and 922. Not at the same time, only one at a time.
(722, 722K)
- use search function, and receiver reboots - about 20% of the time.
- 2nd tuner quit working, would only record one event at a time. If events overlapped, it would record the remainder of the 2nd event when the 1st one finished. Have several overlaps, and you only get the end of each.
- message pops up saying Signal Loss. Recordings continue without a problem. All signal levels are above average. Yet the messages keep popping up and have to be cleared - sometimes these would repeat for hours on end.

switched to 922.
- first one audibly "popped" after four days.
- next one didn't record an event, and rebooted five times during another event.
- next one didn't record an event. timer started, but recording didn't.
- next one had an error on dvr event.
- next one did, too!
- next one had four errors on dvr events in 2 days.

Now I'm with D*.

With each E* receiver swap, these were "new" units. As such, they came with all the standard stuff in the box - two remotes (one IR, one RF,) HDMI cable, composite A/V cable, phone line cable, triplexer, etc.

The techs said I was welcome to keep whatever I wanted of the stuff. So I kept the pieces and parts, including the remotes.

The E* receivers use both IR and RF simultaneously. IR, obviously, has to be used in line-of-sight to the receiver, and the RF can be used anywhere within a reasonable distance to an RF antenna. I used two RF antennas.

So, I had a bunch of remotes available. In my family room, I usually had an IR remote within reaching distance. I had RF remotes with each remote TV that I have (in some cases, I had more than one in a room (one on each night stand in the master bedroom, for example.)) Note that all of these could be used with the 722, 722K.

When I switched to the 922, you could use a maximum of three RF remotes as these were "smart" devices which had to be setup on the receiver individually. There wasn't a limit to how many IR remotes could be used, but there is a limit to what was actually practical.

So, the simple answer to why I had so many remotes - because I could. :)

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I'm good with the Info button and Channel name shortcuts. Have been using those already.

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I have three 1TB esata drives available. Never have to worry about space again? Not so sure about that! I enjoy recording, and saving things: movies, TV-series, cooking shows, sporting events, etc. With E*, you can simply attach a USB drive to the receiver, and transfer recordings to the external drive. (There is a one-time $40 activation fee for your account to do this...) I had approximately 20TB of stuff recorded. I'm still dumping selected events to HD PVR from my final 922 receiver.

Since there is 3-months of free movie channels, then I'm filling up DVR at a pretty fast pace. Pushing events out as far as I can helps; therefore my reason for asking about Upcoming Events shortcut button. If a movie is on tomorrow, and again in 10 day, I choose the later date. Remember, I'm still dumping above with my PVR, and the receiver has to be received by E* in 14 days. I have approximately 70 events to dump yet. I can typically do 4-8 events per day depending on my schedule of activities, responsibilities, and commitments.

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It looks like I'm going to run a second RG-6 to back-feed my remote TV's. I've been wanting to run a new line under my house for my internet connection anyway.
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