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Also... do check with the manufacture website for your TV / Switcher / Amp

It is possible there is also a firmware update for your TV/ Switcher / Amp as well.

IF you have a link for a specific model TV, to get the latest software... please send it to me..
We will list them here.

HDMI is a two way street... HR20 and TV have to be talking the same "language"

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  • Philips TV's (Find your model, then click on Product Support) Link
 

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Over the last few releases, I have put the HDMI tracking in the main discussion thread. And I don't know if I have been missing them or what, but the volume of HDMI issues has gone down.

With 0xFA out, I would like to refocus a bit on that specific area of the HR20.
So over this long holiday weekend... please take a moment to check your HDMI. If you have gone to component... try to re-hook up that HDMI cable.

IF AND ONLY IF you have issues, pleast post in this thread.

I would like to see this information, if available

-) Make and Model of TV
-) Year TV was made
-) Firmware version of the TV software
-) If you are using a HDMI switcher of any type (box or amp)... if so, what make/model

And finally a description of the problem... be it Audio or Video.

Note #1... You may have to unplug your TV to get it to reset it's HDMI port... if you had trouble in the past.
Note #2... If you already see your TV listed, you do not need to post again. One report is all it takes.
Note #3... DirecTV has done a lot of improvements to the HDMI code over the past few releases, that should virtually eliminate all "stability" issues when HDMI is connected.
Note #4... As of version 0xE3 - The HR20 will attept to reset/resync the HDMI connection with the TV, when you go in and out of standby mode
 

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My usual HDMI post:

I have a Sony KV-32HS420 32" CRT (unknown firmware).
The problem (as previously posted):
HDMI output causes my TV to recognize ALL programming as 16:9, even if it is SD 4:3. When this happens, my TV's "16:9 Enhanced Mode" kicks in, vertically compressing the output (even if 4:3 content) to widescreen format. If the content is already widescreen, it's squished vertically even further than 16:9. You can read about this feature my TV (and I'm sure many other Sonys) has at the bottom of page 7 and on page 59 of the manual, which you can download here, if you like.

Using component cables resolves the issue, and 16:9 Enhanced mode only kicks in for widescreen content, as it's supposed to.

The HR10-250's HDMI output works just fine with this feature, using the same cable with the same TV.
This has occurred in ALL HR20 software releases thus far.

You can see pics of what I'm talking about in this post.
 

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LOL...Earl, you beat me to it. I'll see if I can get you the year of manufacture of my TV, and try the unplugging trick.

UPDATE:
-Date of manufacture: December 2004.
-No available software on the Sony site.
-Unplugged TV for ~5 minutes, and unplugged HDMI cable for the same time.
-Replugged everything back in, and it appears they've made some progress on the actual widescreen format, as it is no longer more vertically compressed than it should be (ie, the 16:9 Enhanced Mode appears to be working properly for widescreen content now).
-However, it still kicks in for 4:3 content. Some new pictures:

First, normal 4:3 content via component cables:



Next, the same image via HDMI (it squishes vertically as "16:9 Enhanced Mode" kicks in):



Now, a HD recording of Harry Potter via component:



And the same image via HDMI (looks the same! Yay!):



I verified that widescreen content is displayed properly via HDMI on live TV as well. I do not use my TV's built-in speakers for audio, so I cannot comment on that aspect of the HDMI connection.
 

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I have a Sony KDF-50E2000.

It allows simultaneous connection of both HDMI and component, so I am able to do a fairly good A/B comparison. I have adjusted both inputs to the same settings for PQ and AQ.

Prior to the FA release, I was experiencing an audio synch problem between the TV and HR20 via HDMI. In doing a comparison today, that no longer seems to be an issue.

Other than that, I don't see any significant difference between the HDMI and component connections.
 

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petergaryr said:
I have a Sony KDF-50E2000.

It allows simultaneous connection of both HDMI and component, so I am able to do a fairly good A/B comparison. I have adjusted both inputs to the same settings for PQ and AQ.

Prior to the FA release, I was experiencing an audio synch problem between the TV and HR20 via HDMI. In doing a comparison today, that no longer seems to be an issue.

Other than that, I don't see any significant difference between the HDMI and component connections.
I also have this TV - I noticed before that as the day wore on, the audio sync on HDMI got worse. I am testing it again today, after FA, to see what happens.

But I have a question for you. You say "I have adjusted both inputs to the same settings for PQ and AQ." You can adjust these separately for each input? Or are you saying you just leave the settings the same when you switch between them?

Thanks,
Dave
 

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deebeeeff said:
But I have a question for you. You say "I have adjusted both inputs to the same settings for PQ and AQ." You can adjust these separately for each input? Or are you saying you just leave the settings the same when you switch between them?

Thanks,
Dave
Talk about it via PM or in a new thread... I don't want to clutter this one up.
 

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-) Sharp LC-45GD6U
-) Probably late 2004 or early 2005 build date (but has had firmware updates and some internal board replacements)
-) Main Version 1.32 (2005/11/11)
Card Version 2.02
Monitor Version 3.09
-) No switches, etc....direct from HR20 to panel via HDMI
-) Optical digital audio from HR20 to Denon 2805

Note: Although both component and HDMI inputs show no signal when HR20 in standby, the Denon still shows signal on the optical digital audio port.

Problem: If panel is not powered on or is still initializing when the HR20 comes out of standby, the video signal fails to sync up. I can then cause a resync by:

- Switch from HDMI to component input on the panel
- Switch HR20 into and out of standby

While I could workaround the problem by switching the order of the startup macro on my remote, there is a low WAF since I have to insert around 6-8 seconds of delay between TV power on and HR20 out of standby for successful HDMI sync up. Wife and kids perceive that delay as a problem.
 

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Earl Bonovich said:
Talk about it via PM or in a new thread... I don't want to clutter this one up.
Actually, I tried PM and it didn't seem to want to work. :nono2: SRY
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Sony KDF-50E2000
Dunno when made; bought in October 2006.
Dunno how to find the TV firmware number
No HDMI switcher box

Even after 0xFA, the longer the TV is on, the more out of SYNC the audio and video get.

Did turning off of TV and unplugging/replugging HDMI; same results.

Switching to component and then back to HDMI re-syncs them, but then as time passes they slowly go out of sync again.

Problem does not occur with component inputs.
 

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Earl Bonovich said:
-) Make and Model of TV
-) Year TV was made
-) Firmware version of the TV software
-) If you are using a HDMI switcher of any type (box or amp)... if so, what make/model

Note #4... As of version 0xE3 - The HR20 will attept to reset/resync the HDMI connection with the TV, when you go in and out of standby mode
Since Version 0xE3, I get no output on HDMI at all. Here is the info you requested:

Vizio L32HDTV
Manufactured June 2006 (also tried with one from August 2006 with same result)
No idea how to get the firmware version but whatever they shipped with
No HDMI switcher or AVR in the signal path
Monoprice 6ft 24AWG w/ NetJacket (http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...cs_id=1024002&p_id=2219&seq=1&format=2&style=)

I have tried to reset the TV (unplug for 5-10 minutes), turn TV on first, turn TV on last, etc., and change formats all to no avail. I've also switched cables with no change in result.

Oh, and BTW, it worked perfectly before 0xE3.
 

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This Wednesday morning, ofter reading the posts about the new software update, I turned on my Westinghouse W37W1 monitor to check out my HR20. I got no video at all from the HDMI output. The component output was OK, and I checked out the version of the software to confirm that I had been updated. Then I proceeded to the red-button resent, but that was of no help at all. I then tried a power-off power-on procedure without any difference. I then connected the HDMI output of the HR20 to the HDMI input on another Westinghouse W42W2 monitor, and the result was the same: No HDMI from the HR20. Up until now, the HDMI has been working very well for me. Could this new version of the software have caused the problem?
 

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My AV reciever is an Onkyo tx-sr604.
When plugging in in HDMI I get a red washout over everything.

When I plug directly into my TV everything is fine.
My dvd player works fine thru the HDMI

When I reboot my reciever firt srceen I see is OK (nice & blue)

Then sometime before the it's done I get a flicker then a red was out.( the blue screen gets a nice shade of purple.

My main problem is I just bought this reciever yesterday because of the Dual HDMI, but if I can't get it working I need to take it back.
I didn't list anything about my TV because it seems to work with everything just the sr604 & the HR-20 can't seem to play nice.
T
 

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firmware A30-2.A19.A10.A01.A19

No switchers or amplifiers in the signal path

When I turn on my system the audio is distorted until I cycle through the inputs back to HDMI, or power cycle the TV. This problem was introduced with EF. I currently turn on the system with a Harmony remote which powers on the TV then the HR20.
 

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Having had no problems with component for the past two upgrades, I am a little gun shy on the move back to HDMI, but I made it anyway (I already have both cables plugged into the HR20 so it's easy to toggle between them). Right away, I noticed a lot of voice sync problems (none with component), but other than that, no problems so far. Of course, it's early.

If any problems arise, I will submit pertinent data (panel, firmware, etc.). Right now, keeping fingers crossed. But if the sync problems persist, I will move back to component. The PQ isn't different enough to justify dealing with sync issue.
 

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OXFA
No HDMI output (tried both inputs on the TV)
Samsung LNS4096
Manufactured 2006
No idea how to get the firmware version but whatever they shipped with
No HDMI switcher or AVR in the signal path
 

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Sharp 40C37U LCD TV
Direct HDMI connection between tv and HR20.
No audio through HDMI. I've had the HR20 since the a couple weeks into the LA launch and haven't had this problem before. I just got done hooking up the component wiring for the first time and everything works fine now.

I've done the turn on/ turn off thing, soft reset, red button reset, unplug and replug the HDMI cable, turn DD on and off. Nothing has worked so far. It seems to have happened with the FA build as the audio stopped working just today.
 

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I'm having a major problem lately where every time I power on the TV I need to unplug it, replug it in order to get a picture. This happens on HDMI where my DirecTV HR20 is attached.

Hitachi 50VS810
Manufactured late 2004
Direct HDMI connection

I use a Harmony 880 remote, which conducts all the power on commands etc. Is it possible that the timing of those commands is not allowing the HR20 to reset the HDMI sync?
 
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