Something's not adding up here. First of all I'm assuming we're using the DIRECTV remotes, not a third party. I know this works, we just have to figure out why it's not working for you. If you're seeing the HDUI downsampled, are you already set to 480i? Maybe that's the issue.Maruuk said:I've tried 3 different remotes and the iPad remote and the EXIT hold down either does nothing or forces a mode change into a live channel. Mostly it does nothing. It certainly doesn't change resolution output.
In short bursts the HDUI is on screen, downscaled nicely to SD and working like it should so it CAN do the job fine, but the frickin warning blocker suddenly kicks in and wrecks everything. Way to go D*, another brilliant execution choked away by the geniuses in R&D. "Let's stick a huge warning sign on screen over the perfectly good downscaled HDUI so the user can't watch anything!" Forrest Gump lives.
Are third party remotes known to be a problem with this feature? The reason I ask is I'm using a URC-8820 and holding down the Exit button works as well as it does with the DirecTV remote on my HR21-100.Stuart Sweet said:Something's not adding up here. First of all I'm assuming we're using the DIRECTV remotes, not a third party. I know this works, we just have to figure out why it's not working for you. If you're seeing the HDUI downsampled, are you already set to 480i? Maybe that's the issue.
Gatorgogo,Gatorgogo said:I have one D* receiver that I have connected a HDTV using the HDMI cable, and 2 SD TV's in 2 different rooms using the SD outputs on the D* receiver. One of the rooms is about 75 feet away from the D* box and I am using a RF Modulator to jump on the existing COAX cable to this spot. I bet there are lots of people that have done this trick. I considered running HD cable to this spot, but I don't think running 75' HDMI or Component video cable is recommended (too long a distance).
It was working fine until this new HD Guide enhancement came out. It's just an annoance to have to keep switching the TV resolutions back/forth. So, I just spent $50
on a Component to Composite Converter so that I will make the D* guide do what it used to do.
Could you share what brand you purchased? I am definitely not seeing the same aspect ratio.Gatorgogo said:I just got the Component to Composite Converter in the mail today and connected it up to the Component outputs on the D* HD receiver. The picture on the SD TV looks the same as the original SD outputs from the D* receiver. It seems to have the right aspect ratio on the SD TV. The HD resolution is still at the 1080i output and looks sharp on the HDTV. And yes, when I press the Guide Button, I don't see the warning message on the SD TV's anymore telling me to press the Exit Button. So for the price of a $50 converter, I'm back where I was before the new HD Guide was installed by D*... Yea...
BJB, just use the aspect ratio setting in the D* box itself. One of the main reasons why these converters were so useful prior to this D* HDGUI was to be able to maintain the full 16:9 aspect ratio when recording to a DVD recorder from a cable box. Every cable box I ever experimented with automatically letterboxes widescreen content when output via s-video or composite connectors. So the component to composite converters maintain the original aspect ratio for you.BJB said:Gatorgogo,
I was wondering if the $50 component to composite converter you used had any adjustment for aspect ratio. I have a similar setup and converter as you, and, with the HDR set for 16X9 (of course for the HDMI out), the component out feeds a 16X9 signal to the converter which then displays a picture on a 4x3 set that is not letterboxed. But it should be letterboxed to maintain the correct vertical aspect ratio.
Of course having aspect control on an inexpensive converter is asking a lot. I am just wondering if yours exhibits the same behavior?
Garorgogo,Gatorgogo said:The Component to Composit Converter is probably the device that is making the right aspect ratio for the SD TV's. That's available at Monoprice..
Product Number 7114 Component (YpbPr) to Composite Converter
The RF Modulator puts the composite Video/Sound on coax cable I have in the house...it's available on Ebay or Amazon among others: RCA RF Modulator (Model CRF910)
Hope this helps...
I too have the Monoprice Component to Composite converter, which then feeds an RF modulator (that used to take the Composite signal direct from the receiver). My receiver is a HR23 - both the composite output, and now the component-to-composite converted output is vertically stretched to fill 4:3 TV's elsewhere in my house.BJB said:Garorgogo,
Would you be so kind as to share your satellite box format settings for the component to composite? I checked with monoprice and they think their 7114 box would also stretch a 16X9 input vertically to 4x3 and not letterbox just like the re-label I have.
Thanks again, would love to get this working the way it used to!
rwmair,rwmair said:I had figured there was no way to get the correct aspect ratio from SD output (and now component-to-composite converted output) from a HRxx box. Maybe tuning to the SD equivalent of the HD channel might work if watching live TV - and you let the 4:3 picture stretch to fill 16:9 on the HDTV - but we're usually watching recorded shows in this mode.