[Doug Brott]

Folks,

This is a heads up .. I'm not sure what the most recent code levels are for the TiVos, but if you are running older versions (perhaps forcing the TiVo to remain at a lower revision than is currently available), then you need to be aware of changes that are taking place.

Soon the GUIDE data format will be modified to the point that old software will not be able to properly understand it. As a result, those systems that have not received a recent software update may no longer work properly.

 

[inkahauts]

Folks,

This is a heads up .. I'm not sure what the most recent code levels are for the TiVos, but if you are running older versions (perhaps forcing the TiVo to remain at a lower revision than is currently available), then you need to be aware of changes that are taking place.

Soon the GUIDE data format will be modified to the point that old software will not be able to properly understand it. As a result, those systems that have not received a recent software update may no longer work properly.

Doug, any word on what these Guide data changes entail? Will it give us more info or something, or is it simply on their end to make things work better, but we won't actually see any difference?

 

[Jhon69]

Hopefully give us First Air Date with more information.I still haven't got 6.4a still running 6.3f on my HR10-250.Would be cool to get other Tivo features.

 

[andunn27]

So is this a new software update? I know for a fact that I do not have 6.4a (the newest I believe) on my Tivo.

 

[Jhon69]

So is this a new software update? I know for a fact that I do not have 6.4a (the newest I believe) on my Tivo.

All Doug said was a guide improvement.I'm the one that hopes it's a software update.:sure:

 

[Doug Brott]

All Doug said was a guide improvement.I'm the one that hopes it's a software update.:sure:

Actually it's a format change .. as in some data fields are different sizes. Here are some of the things that might happen if you continue on the old software:

• Repeats may record even if you set it to First Run
• Showcases will not record
• Season passes may not record at all (deleting and adding back may help)

The changes are rolling out over the next couple of months so you may continue to have problems.

This only affects folks running "old" software. If you are up-to-date then this should not be a problem.

 

[texasbrit]

I had posted about this in this thread http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=138323 also.

 

[Stuart Sweet]

Another FYI, you must have a phone line connected to get this update.

 

[Grentz]

Guess I will have to break out the phone line. The Tivo I am running right now still has an older release.

 

[Jhon69]

Actually it's a format change .. as in some data fields are different sizes. Here are some of the things that might happen if you continue on the old software:

• Repeats may record even if you set it to First Run
• Showcases will not record
• Season passes may not record at all (deleting and adding back may help)

The changes are rolling out over the next couple of months so you may continue to have problems.

This only affects folks running "old" software. If you are up-to-date then this should not be a problem.

Doug: Is there anyway we will be able to see if we have received this change?.What should we be looking for to know?.

 

[Jhon69]

Guess I will have to break out the phone line. The Tivo I am running right now still has an older release.

What would be the reason not to have the DirecTivo phone line active?.

I've had my HR10-250 phone active since my activation date.

 

[Stuart Sweet]

Doug: Is there anyway we will be able to see if we have received this change?.What should we be looking for to know?.

Check to see if you are running version 6.4a or higher. I apologize, it's been a long time since I used a Tivo, but it's in System Information or something like that.

 

[Jhon69]

Check to see if you are running version 6.4a or higher. I apologize, it's been a long time since I used a Tivo, but it's in System Information or something like that.

No need to apologize you didn't forget that's where it's at.:sure:

Nope still on 6.3f.But I've only had it active for alittle over a week.

 

[litzdog911]

No need to apologize you didn't forget that's where it's at.:sure:

Nope still on 6.3f.But I've only had it active for alittle over a week.

If your Tivo is connected to a phone line then it should soon update to v6.4a.

 

[dhhaines]

Does anyone know if this will make my Hughes GXCEBOT unusable? This receiver has been solid as a rock for years in my home office and I'd hate to have to replace it.

As far as I know this hasn't been updated for years now.

 

[Stuart Sweet]

Yes, eventually this will lead to problems with that receiver, because the guide data is being changed in a way that will require an update.

 

[dhhaines]

Yes, eventually this will lead to problems with that receiver, because the guide data is being changed in a way that will require an update.

Bummer... I really don't think the new receivers are as reliable as this one has been.

 

[KSbugeater]

I call BS on this! I still have my HR10-250 on 3.1.5f because I have heard of LOTS of hard disk problems caused by newer versions using different sectors of the disk and then you lose the whole machine. I have 570 GB of old shows on here that I don't want to lose, yet I don't want my DVR functions to be unreliable here. What is wrong with the guide data status quo? What benefit is there to me that will offset the possible threat of losing my recordings?

 

[Stuart Sweet]

I understand your issue. However, this comes straight from DIRECTV:

Tribune Media Service, the processing house for pretty much all data, has to increase the field size of the key identifier for programs.

Older software won't be able to handle the new guide data.

KSbugeater, I understand why you're not upgrading but honestly that's the only way you'll be able to continue making new recordings from what I understand.

 

[Jon J]

On one of my SD DirecTiVos I'm running the last version that would display program information on the Now Playing page. I really hate to leave that version.

The nag message is up to about 450 days since a phone call.